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31 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

Academics?

 

I am shocked!

 

Piffner is an "academic", also a prolific author,  who is in the business of selling books. He knows how to give his audience what they want. Lol

 

There's huge, hungry audience for this stuff!

 

Speaking of "audiences":

 

I briefly perused the treatise And found it not very well researched, even for "academics". Lol

 

One "lie" stands out!

 

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"we had the biggest audience in the history of inaugural speeches” (Kessler 2017). Photographs of his inauguration, substantiated by records of Metro trips, demonstrated that the crowd was much smaller. By the estimates of professional crowd scientists, Trump’s crowd was about 160,000, much smaller than President Obama’s inauguration crowd of more than 1.8 million in 2008 and smaller than the approximately 470,000 at the Women’s March the following day (Gillin 2017; Wallace and Parlapiano 2017). At the president’s behest, Trump’s press secretary, Sean Spicer, told reporters that the crowd was “the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration—period.”

 

Now here's the deal:

 

Trump and Spicer are talking about biggest "audience" and your wonderboy is talking about "crowd sizes".

 

With me so far?

 

Across the World, more TV's, computers, smart phones. improved streaming bit rates in the 8 years between 2008 and 2016.

 

I'd bet you and I watched it on a TV or computer. In the DR I watched it with a crowd of ex-pats and locals on a restaurant big screen TV that they never had back in 2008.

 

Still with me?

 

When the TOTAL "AUDIENCE" for the inauguration is taken into consideration, here's what some smart tech folks say"

 

Tech Stream

 

"Trump’s inauguration broke live video streaming records"

Sarah Perez@sarahintampa / 5:18 PM AST•January 23, 2017
https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/23/trumps-inauguration-broke-live-video-streaming-records/

 

"Though some cried while others cheered, both sides tuned into to watch President Trump’s inauguration in sizable numbers – record-breaking numbers, in fact. The event has broken new ground, becoming the largest, single live news event that content delivery network Akamai has ever hosted, the company says, following an analysis of its live video data."

 

Politico

 

"Was Trump's inauguration the most-streamed of all time?"

Jan 23, 2017 — In general, video streaming has been on the rise over the past decade, while linear TV viewership (people watching TV live on their television ...

https://www.politico.com › blogs › on-media › 2017/01

 

In Sean Spicer’s first official daily press briefing on Monday, he said that when you factor in people who streamed President Donald Trump’s inauguration online, it would make it the most-watched presidential inauguration in history.

 

He has a point, but it is one that is almost impossible to prove. The reason? TV ratings and online streaming metrics are not an apples-to-apples comparison, so there is no easy way to calculate exactly how many people watched the inauguration online in a way that is comparable to TV viewership data released by Nielsen.

 

"live streaming technology has improved to the point where networks are simply able to handle the higher bandwidth today than they were eight years ago.

It is fair to assume that streaming numbers for Fox News improved in 2017, just as its linear TV viewership improved, but Fox has not made those numbers available, and again, there is no easy way to compare them directly to TV ratings.

That lack of transparency and lack of apples-to-apples comparison means that it is essentially impossible to know whether enough people watched Trump’s inauguration online to overtake Obama’s in 2009, which also had some substantial online streaming.

 

Bottom line:

 

Your "academic" boy is obsessed with crowd sizes which has little to do with "total audience". That's a liberal education fer ya!

 

Verdict: sleazy way to try to prove a point! Failed!

 

Case Dismissed.

 

Now excuse me while I take my daily walk along a palm fringed beach, and maybe a cold beer later in the shade, with good company!

 

Feel free to talk among yourselves!  :)


 

 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, trastrick said:

Now excuse me while I take my daily walk along a palm fringed beach, and maybe a cold beer later in the shade, with good company!

 

Feel free to talk among yourselves!  :)

Yet here you are, wasting endless hours arguing with strangers on the Internet.  Give yourself a break lad;  even I take a couple of days off from time to time.

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22 hours ago, butlers said:

I'm cringing on your behalf.

Just about short of " the dog ate my homework"

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38707722.amp

 

 

Here's some homework for you.

 

Write out 100 times, "I will not post a URL link that goes nowhere, without checking that it works!"  :)

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Yes is does now.

 

It wouldn't open in 3 different browsers, and a separate device (Iphone) when I tried it. Must have been a glich at their end.

 

My sincere apologies for ever doubting your cut and paste intelligence!  :)

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Annie Bynnol wrore:

 

"In the same article that you have selected from:

 

"In 2010, at the urging of Donald Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen, the National Enquirer began promoting a potential Trump presidential campaign, and with Cohen's involvement, the tabloid began questioning Obama's birthplace and citizenship.[145]"

In 2012, the far-right website Breitbart published a copy of the promotional booklet printed by Acton & Dystel in 1991. Trump employed the executive chairman of Breitbart -Bannon as his chief strategist.

In several interviews and appearances made Trump made claims directed at Obama's citizenship, college and passport applications.

These continued for years after Obama released his full birth certificate in 2011."

 

******

 

The WIKI article was concerned with  the "ORIGINS of the Claims".

 

For 16 years, 1991 to 2007, Obama's  Press Agent's Web site Bio had Obama born in Kenya.

 

In addition Obama's half brother made the same claim.

 

So there was ample incentive for a political rival to question and publicize that information, which is what a Clinton Campaign worker did, and they say fired for it. (They never mentioned who the campaign worker was who "got fired" for emailing it, and the MSM never questioned their "story".) :)

 

Trump's September, 2018 declaration that Obama "was born in the United States", also laid to  rest the other rumor you brought up, that Obama had obtained special consideration and/or financial support, as a "foreign student", on his college admission forms, which could explain why his "Kenya Born" biography on his Press Agent's web site stood, for 16 years, until 2007, the year he ran for President.  :)


Not credible?   Apparently it was common practice. Another, more recent Democrat Presidential Candidate, Elizabeth Warren, abused the college admission minority quotas by claiming she was an Native Indian, :)

 

But the rumor will never be completely resolved, because Obama's college admission application forms, have been sealed, locked up as tight as Fort Knox.

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Well ,withdrawing from the Iran deal might have gained headlines but behind the scenes.

 

Three Years Late, Israelis Finally Hear the Truth About Trump

https://flip.it/CAcOon

 

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12 hours ago, butlers said:

Well ,withdrawing from the Iran deal might have gained headlines but behind the scenes.

 

Three Years Late, Israelis Finally Hear the Truth About Trump

https://flip.it/CAcOon

 

Your link is behind a Paywall.

 

Presumably you have read the entire article.

 

Mind posting the relevant details?

 

Thanks

 

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A couple of updates:

 

The 5 year Trump witchhunt, probably the longest running, widest ranging, and costliest legal persecution in history of an innocent citizen, to come up with the holy grail, a criminal charge against one Donald J. Trump, is running into the same old problem.

 

Lack of evidence to support the scattergun conspiracy theories and claims of crimes, circulated by his political opponents and their friends in the liberal media.

 

From a Special Prosecutor Investigation with a team of 18 of the best in the business, two failed Impeachment Trials, Obama's FBI "Operation Crossfire Hurricane", and some 20 State Attorneys General, looking into every aspect of his International business empire.

 

And still they come up embarrassingly empty.

 

All they do is continue to cast the net wider and wider, subpoena everybody ever associated with him, in the hope they will find among his thousands of associates a crooked lawyer, a tax cheat, a dishonest employee, to nail him to the cross. 


That's not really hard to do, given the sheer size of his multiple international business and political contacts over the years.

 

But not a single criminal charge has ever been laid against him in a Court of Law.

These "Investigations" are now outlasting the investigators, Lol

 

BBC

 

"Legal bid to uncover Trump's Scottish golf course finances fails" https://www.bbc.com › news › uk-scotland-59414362

 

Here's the New York Times (via Seattle Times)

 

"Trump investigation enters crucial phase as prosecutor’s term nears end"

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trump-investigation-enters-crucial-phase-as-prosecutors-term-nears-end/

"NEW YORK — A long-running criminal investigation into Donald Trump and his family business is reaching a critical phase as Cyrus Vance Jr., the prosecutor overseeing the inquiry, enters his final weeks as Manhattan district attorney.

Vance’s prosecutors have issued new subpoenas for records about Trump’s hotels, golf clubs and office buildings. They recently interviewed a banker employed by Deutsche Bank, Trump’s top lender. And earlier this month, they told a top Trump executive who had been under scrutiny, Matthew Calamari, that they did not plan to indict him in the purported tax-evasion scheme that led to charges against Trump’s company and its chief financial officer.

The developments, described by people with knowledge of the matter, show that Manhattan prosecutors have shifted away from investigating those tax issues and returned to an original focus of their three-year investigation: Trump’s statements about the value of his assets.

In particular, the people said, prosecutors are zeroing in on whether Trump or his company inflated the value of some of his properties while trying to secure financing from potential lenders. If Vance’s office concludes that Trump intentionally submitted false values to potential lenders, prosecutors could argue that he engaged in a pattern of fraud"

 

Now that is a non-starter. Property values are a complex issue. What the seller may see as an overgrown industrial zoned vacant lot, a smart and successful entrepreneur may see as a future lavish hotel or shopping center. The Banks are the final arbiters of that issue, when assessing the risk associated with a loan.

 

As noted above, prosecutors recently interviewed a banker employed by Deutsche Bank, Mr. Trump’s top lender.

Ah, now the banks!

 

And on it goes!

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54 minutes ago, trastrick said:

A couple of updates:

 

The 5 year Trump witchhunt, probably the longest running, widest ranging, and costliest legal persecution in history of an innocent citizen, to come up with the holy grail, a criminal charge against one Donald J. Trump, is running into the same old problem.

 

Lack of evidence to support the scattergun conspiracy theories and claims of crimes, circulated by his political opponents and their friends in the liberal media.

Essentially the same as the Benghazi and Uranium One witch hunts Clinton had to endure... "Lock Her Up" wasn't it? :?

 

Unlike Trump, she actually was exonerated! :hihi:

 

Then there's that birth certificate nonsense Trump promoted heavily, and the stolen election garbage!

 

So what you're saying is that Trump, and you, like to dish it out... but can't take it!

 

As before, anyone who supports Trump has no cause to complain without looking a bit closer to home first.

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31 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Essentially the same as the Benghazi and Uranium One witch hunts Clinton had to endure... "Lock Her Up" wasn't it? :?

 

Unlike Trump, she actually was exonerated! :hihi:

 

Then there's that birth certificate nonsense Trump promoted heavily, and the stolen election garbage!

 

So what you're saying is that Trump, and you, like to dish it out... but can't take it!

 

As before, anyone who supports Trump has no cause to complain without looking a bit closer to home first.

Trump, like Hillary, is innocent until proven guilty!  :)

 

As for a crowd cheer, you should have heard what the mobs said about orangemanbad being  dragged from the White House in chains, after a Biden election :)

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