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4 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

I don't think there were better candidates.

 

I read if Democrats had a young lively nominee it would have been a landslide victory.

a bit like when they went for a female candidate? 

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9 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

I don't think there were better candidates.

 

I read if Democrats had a young lively nominee it would have been a landslide victory.

Out of a country of 600 million, yes there were better candidates. Law of averages!

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2 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Out of a country of 600 million, yes there were better candidates. Law of averages!

Ok..they were not good enough to run for the presidency then.

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10 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

Ok..they were not good enough to run for the presidency then.

Biden only got the nomination because he had been vice president twice to Obama.  It was third time lucky after performing poorly in 1988 and 2008 in the race to be the Democratic candidate.  For Biden to have any credible as a US President he needed to have a convincing victory against Trump. 

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1 minute ago, West 77 said:

Biden only got the nomination because he had been vice president twice to Obama.  It was third time lucky after performing poorly in 1988 and 2008 in the race to be the Democratic candidate.  For Biden to have any credible as a US President he needed to have a convincing victory against Trump. 

Joseph R. Biden Jr., 77
Former vice president; 
“If we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation, who we are, and I cannot stand by and watch that happen.”
 
I think that was enough reason for him to run.
 
Also 27 Democrats had pulled out so Biden was the only 'credible' candidate.

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If anyone wondered and hasn't looked it up already, the major donors are listed here:

 

Biden:

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/joe-biden/contributors?id=N00001669

 

Trump:

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/donald-trump/contributors?id=N00023864

 

It's interesting to note that Disney and Linda McMahon (wife of WWE wrestling owner, Vince McMahon) gave money to Trump, whilst the parent company of Google (Alphabet) and the University of California gave money to Biden.

 

Perhaps more interesting to note that the top contributor to Biden's campaign is a media conglomerate, whilst the biggest for Trump is a casino.

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11 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:
Joseph R. Biden Jr., 77
Former vice president; 
“If we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation, who we are, and I cannot stand by and watch that happen.”
 
I think that was enough reason for him to run.
 
Also 27 Democrats had pulled out so Biden was the only 'credible' candidate.

I'm not suggesting Biden wasn't a credible candidate from a poor field to win the nomination. What I'm saying if he does end up winning the election to become President he will have a credibility issue after only beating Trump by a narrow margin. 

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4 minutes ago, West 77 said:

I'm not suggesting Biden wasn't a credible candidate from a poor field to win the nomination. What I'm saying if he does end up winning the election to become President he will have a credibility issue after only beating Trump by a narrow margin. 

Hes so far - so far, recorded more votes than any other candidate for 100 years. Donald never had the popular vote.

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Think Biden just needs Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan now, to reach the magic 270, and has a narrow lead in all 3 states.

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5 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Hes so far - so far, recorded more votes than any other candidate for 100 years. Donald never had the popular vote.

The popular vote is irrelevant because in states like California there is no incentive for Republican voters to bother turning out when the Democrats always win there. What is relevant is the votes in the swing states. Trump has done better in Florida this time when the polls were predicting the democrats would win easily. It's not really a surprise that whoever wins the popular vote in a two horse race will record more votes than in previous elections.                   

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23 minutes ago, the_bloke said:

If anyone wondered and hasn't looked it up already, the major donors are listed here:

 

Biden:

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/joe-biden/contributors?id=N00001669

 

Trump:

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/donald-trump/contributors?id=N00023864

 

It's interesting to note that Disney and Linda McMahon (wife of WWE wrestling owner, Vince McMahon) gave money to Trump, whilst the parent company of Google (Alphabet) and the University of California gave money to Biden.

 

Perhaps more interesting to note that the top contributor to Biden's campaign is a media conglomerate, whilst the biggest for Trump is a casino.

If you're going to consider who might have influence over them you should look at who they owe money to as well.

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3 minutes ago, West 77 said:

The popular vote is irrelevant because in states like California there is no incentive for Republican voters to bother turning out when the Democrats always win there. What is relevant is the votes in the swing states. Trump has done better in Florida this time when the polls were predicting the democrats would win easily. It's not really a surprise that whoever wins the popular vote in a two horse race will record more votes than in previous elections.                   

Of course, the same applies to Democrat voters in always Republican states.

 

The popular vote might not mean much in terms of who gets to be president but it certainly gives whoever that is more credibility, which is what was being discussed, if they also got more votes than their opponent rather than relying on the electoral college.

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