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1 minute ago, Anna B said:

Interesting. I know what you mean; multi-millionaire businessman etc etc. should be part of the establishment, but he isn't.

 

He doesn't fit in, doesn't play the game their way, shoots his mouth off etc, and doesn't give a f***

 

He's uncontrollble. That makes him a threat to the cosy club that is the establishment. 

 

 

Of course he plays the game - that's why he pays sod all in taxes. He's not taxed the rich (tax cuts actually) binned Obama-care (and given the diets of most trump voters, you'd think they'd be all for free healthcare) - he's done sod all, with the exception of maybe (and it's because I don't know enough) the economy, but I'm not sure how much of that was his policies.

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Just now, tinfoilhat said:

Of course he plays the game - that's why he pays sod all in taxes. He's not taxed the rich (tax cuts actually) binned Obama-care (and given the diets of most trump voters, you'd think they'd be all for free healthcare) - he's done sod all, with the exception of maybe (and it's because I don't know enough) the economy, but I'm not sure how much of that was his policies.

So, considering he has been constantly rubbished in the media as an idiot, and is Republican, what do you think his attraction is, especially to the blue collar workers? 

This should have been a walk in the park for Biden. Why is it turning into such a close race?

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15 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Interesting. I know what you mean; multi-millionaire businessman etc etc. should be part of the establishment, but he isn't.

 

He doesn't fit in, doesn't play the game their way, shoots his mouth off etc, and doesn't give a f***

 

He's uncontrollable. (bit like Corbyn.) That makes him a threat to the cosy club that is the establishment. 

 

 

so why is Trump successful but JC wasnt given you are saying the same things about the media representation of Donald that you say about JC? 

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Anna B said:

So, considering he has been constantly rubbished in the media as an idiot, and is Republican, what do you think his attraction is, especially to the blue collar workers? 

This should have been a walk in the park for Biden. Why is it turning into such a close race?

Ignorance, husbanded by populist tropes, turbo-charged by social media.

 

In the US as much as elsewhere (miscellaneously and in no particular order) : UK, Russia, Brazil, Philippines, Hungary, Poland*...

 

It's never been easier to get masses to vote against their best interests. The US vote for Trump, after the last 4 years, is all the evidence you'd ever need for that truism.

 

(* Poland might just be turning a corner at last, that said, seeing how Polish women are currently forcing the government to u-turn on the abortion ban)

 

EDIT: and as for the walk in the park/close race...if Biden wins the election by 1 electoral college vote, guess what?

 

He's the next US president and it's mission accomplished, is what ;)

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16 minutes ago, Anna B said:

So, considering he has been constantly rubbished in the media as an idiot, and is Republican, what do you think his attraction is, especially to the blue collar workers? 

This should have been a walk in the park for Biden. Why is it turning into such a close race?

He's been rubbished by a SECTION of the media not all by a country mile. Blue collar workers get to keep their guns. He'll also corner the racist and sexist vote. And the nutty Christian right who want to have more say on women's bodies than they do. And rich people, or people who think they'll be rich. He lost the Cuban vote in Florida because they equate socialism with Castro's communism.

 

And idiots, let's not forget them. Their vote counts as much as the most learned professor. The ones that think that celebrities are abducting children and drinking their blood. Those people hold down jobs and are allowed to vote. And vote they will!

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Biden will be 78 if he becomes president.

 

Now I think anyone that age is no doubt slowing down,  mentally and physically.

 

For someone who will be running the country and travelling around the world for summits and meetings, well it ain't gonna be easy. 

 

Let's hope dementia doesn't kick in.

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3 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

Biden will be 78 if he becomes president.

 

Now I think anyone that age is no doubt slowing down,  mentally and physically.

 

For someone who will be running the country and travelling around the world for summits and meetings, well it ain't gonna be easy. 

 

Let's hope dementia doesn't kick in.

If it does - for either candidate - let's hope the VP takes the reigns and the incumbent let's them. I suspect trump wouldn't.

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12 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

Biden will be 78 if he becomes president.

 

Now I think anyone that age is no doubt slowing down,  mentally and physically.

 

For someone who will be running the country and travelling around the world for summits and meetings, well it ain't gonna be easy. 

 

Let's hope dementia doesn't kick in.

Sensible post.  

 

I’m not sure how it will affect this country who wins the presidency, but it’s the American people who decide.

 

If Trump loses he still remains in the job for a few more months.  It will be interesting to see what he does in that time.  

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"I've won! I've won!

What's that? I haven't?! I maybe haven't won?!

Foul play! He's cheated! I want to win! Me! I've won!

It's my party - I've won!"

 

...cried my 6 year old on his birthday when he lost a game of draughts to his older brother.

Was it ever thus....

 

 

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

Biden will be 78 if he becomes president.

 

Now I think anyone that age is no doubt slowing down,  mentally and physically.

 

For someone who will be running the country and travelling around the world for summits and meetings, well it ain't gonna be easy. 

 

Let's hope dementia doesn't kick in.

Trump will be almost 75. Not really much difference.

 

You would have hoped that the US might have done better than two ancient white, middle class  men.

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28 minutes ago, RiffRaff said:

"I've won! I've won!

What's that? I haven't?! I maybe haven't won?!

Foul play! He's cheated! I want to win! Me! I've won!

It's my party - I've won!"

 

...cried my 6 year old on his birthday when he lost a game of draughts to his older brother.

Was it ever thus....

There is an important point and aspect to US politics behind your post in jest: for so many Americans, politics is all about 'The Big Win', like so many other facets of their ultra-competitive society and culture. It isn't enough to win, the opponents have to be vanquished.

 

At a personal level, that boils down to wanting to belong to the winning team, irrespective of what the game is about and how it's meant to be played.

 

Trump's campaign and communications were always playing on this cultural trait, and still do now.

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41 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Trump will be almost 75. Not really much difference.

 

You would have hoped that the US might have done better than two ancient white, middle class  men.

I don't think there were better candidates.

 

I read if Democrats had a young lively nominee it would have been a landslide victory.

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