Jump to content

Mr Trump - All discussion here

Recommended Posts

Just now, XXTickerXX said:

To ignore the voting power afforded by the Electoral College for the other 41 smaller states and 3,048 smaller counties would be discriminatory. I thought you hated discrimination and now you are all for it!!

Every western country is a representative democracy. Yet Liberals just cry about the US. Please give me that massive list of countries you have that are a direct democracy. They are all run on area systems like the US.

 

How would it be discriminatory?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Longcol said:

How would it be discriminatory?

How could it not be. They would never have a vote or say in what happens ever again. Rural lives matter too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, XXTickerXX said:

How could it not be. They would never have a vote or say in what happens ever again. Rural lives matter too.

A rural life equals a city / town / subarban / life.

 

You're assuming all people think like Trump -  ie I'm in power (even with fewer votes than my rival), therefore I can dictate to the rest of the country.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Longcol said:

A rural life equals a city / town / subarban / life.

 

You're assuming all people think like Trump -  ie I'm in power (even with fewer votes than my rival), therefore I can dictate to the rest of the country.

 

 

You overestimate what power a President has. The Governors decide what happens in the individual states. A Governor serves as the chief executive officer and commander-in-chief in each of the fifty states and in the five permanently inhabited territories, functioning as both head of state and head of government therein.

 

Do you think Trump would have allowed all the hate hoaxes the left have subjected him too if he had the power to stop them. There are 3 branches of government for a reason, in that each branch may scrutinize the actions of the other.

 

The reason Trump will get re-elected is he has lost no votes but gained lot's of Democrat votes. This is evidenced in nearly every rally which are just basically data gathering machines for the campaign. He had 6% of the black vote in 2016 and will likely get more than 20% this time. There are no republicans answering polls correctly. They either ignore them or say the opposite of what they will vote. You can mark this and my prediction is 350 electoral votes for Trump. He got 304 last time.

 

Biden has no enthusiasm among voters. He has been in politics 50 years and changed nothing other than getting black people in jail more. Democrats will just vote for anyone opposite to orange man bad. Bernie would have had a much better chance. I do not even think they will allow Biden to have debates because he will get utterly destroyed onstage by Trump. Anyone relying on polling data should just go back 4 years as seen below. Also with all the rioting from the BLM protests people are looking at that and there are record gun sales all over the country. They don't want that happening in their towns and cities.

 

Of course there is always a chance of an upset and Biden wins just like Trump did in 2016 but there will be no apathetic Trump voters assuming he will win this time. They will all vote. There will have been quite a few Democrats in 2016 who just assumed Hilary would win and did not vote. The question is can Biden be the one to rally them. I don't think he can. There are lots of Democrat gun owners and Biden wants to take them away.

 

Ecb_xkKXQAQbsxw?format=jpg&name=small

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, XXTickerXX said:

You overestimate what power a President has. The Governors decide what happens in the individual states. A Governor serves as the chief executive officer and commander-in-chief in each of the fifty states and in the five permanently inhabited territories, functioning as both head of state and head of government therein.

 

Do you think Trump would have allowed all the hate hoaxes the left have subjected him too if he had the power to stop them. There are 3 branches of government for a reason, in that each branch may scrutinize the actions of the other.

 

The reason Trump will get re-elected is he has lost no votes but gained lot's of Democrat votes. This is evidenced in nearly every rally which are just basically data gathering machines for the campaign. He had 6% of the black vote in 2016 and will likely get more than 20% this time. There are no republicans answering polls correctly. They either ignore them or say the opposite of what they will vote. You can mark this and my prediction is 350 electoral votes for Trump. He got 304 last time.

 

Biden has no enthusiasm among voters. He has been in politics 50 years and changed nothing other than getting black people in jail more. Democrats will just vote for anyone opposite to orange man bad. Bernie would have had a much better chance. I do not even think they will allow Biden to have debates because he will get utterly destroyed onstage by Trump. Anyone relying on polling data should just go back 4 years as seen below. Also with all the rioting from the BLM protests people are looking at that and there are record gun sales all over the country. They don't want that happening in their towns and cities.

 

Of course there is always a chance of an upset and Biden wins just like Trump did in 2016 but there will be no apathetic Trump voters assuming he will win this time. They will all vote. There will have been quite a few Democrats in 2016 who just assumed Hilary would win and did not vote. The question is can Biden be the one to rally them. I don't think he can. There are lots of Democrat gun owners and Biden wants to take them away.

 

Ecb_xkKXQAQbsxw?format=jpg&name=small

 

 

So you've moved off the topic of equality I see.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The idea that the candidates spent much time in the non competative  states is false ,I think from the last election 20 plus states got No visits from either candidate.

As the more populous states , ( sucessfull ones) grow and the others decline it becomes even less democratic that they are grotesquely over represented.

A couple if states do split thier  electoral college votes proportionaly to the number of votes cast.

And quite a few are signed up for a national popular vote reform.

Lastest polling for voting intension today is for not a bluewave but a blue Tusami.

Biden has a 10 point advantage in nearly all the polls including Trump's favourite Rammundson. 54/ 42

Hillary never broke the 50 percent barrier.

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Longcol said:

So you've moved off the topic of equality I see.

Not at all, you agreed that minorities do not matter and the majority should dictate to the minority. And that even though not a single country in the western world has a direct democracy you somehow want one for the US instead of your own country.

 

Americas founding fathers  saw a danger in tyranny of the majority who would then pursue exclusively its own interests at the expense of those in the minority. Hence the electoral college.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, XXTickerXX said:

Not at all, you agreed that minorities do not matter and the majority should dictate to the minority. And that even though not a single country in the western world has a direct democracy you somehow want one for the US instead of your own country.

 

Americas founding fathers  saw a danger in tyranny of the majority who would then pursue exclusively its own interests at the expense of those in the minority. Hence the electoral college.

Where did I say that?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Where did I say that?

Quote

You appear to be saying that a handful of folk in a rural area should count the same as thousands in a city.

I think minorities should carry an equal weight. You don't.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Most states do winner takes all for the college votes, so say it's 50.5/ 49.5 , surely that is also does not protect the minority from.the majority.

You can have a situation that 26 percent if the votes nation wide could elected the President because if the electrol college.

If that was a banana republic the US would want to send the UN in

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, XXTickerXX said:

I think minorities should carry an equal weight. You don't.

Depends what you mean by an equal weight. 

 

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be happy with a black minority calling the shots.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, butlers said:

The idea that the candidates spent much time in the non competative  states is false ,I think from the last election 20 plus states got No visits from either candidate.

As the more populous states , ( sucessfull ones) grow and the others decline it becomes even less democratic that they are grotesquely over represented.

A couple if states do split thier  electoral college votes proportionaly to the number of votes cast.

And quite a few are signed up for a national popular vote reform.

Lastest polling for voting intension today is for not a bluewave but a blue Tusami.

Biden has a 10 point advantage in nearly all the polls including Trump's favourite Rammundson. 54/ 42

Hillary never broke the 50 percent barrier.

 

 

 

Helmut Northop already examined the primary data and said Biden has only an 8% chance of winning the election. All other polls are "opinion polls" and were proved wrong in 2016.

The model correctly predicted 24 of the last 26 presidential elections including Trumps 2016 win that no one gave him a chance for and give Trump a 91% chance of re-election.

 

That's a 92% accuracy rate in predictions, I'll go with that.

7 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Depends what you mean by an equal weight. 

 

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be happy with a black minority calling the shots.

 

 

They already are.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.