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surely the reality tv Kardashians in the Whitehouse is something not even the Americans could vote for 

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6 hours ago, catmiss said:

surely the reality tv Kardashians in the Whitehouse is something not even the Americans could vote for 

They voted for Trump.

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3 hours ago, Halibut said:

They voted for Trump.

In the same way the British voted for Johnson : within a very flawed and imbalanced voting system beset by vote suppression issues.

 

Lest people forget, Clinton got more votes than Trump.

 

So get ready for Biden getting more votes than Trump, but still not get in.

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Just now, L00b said:

In the same way the British voted for Johnson : within a very flawed and imbalanced voting system beset by vote suppression issues.

 

Lest people forget, Clinton got more votes than Trump.

 

So get ready for Biden getting more votes than Trump, but still not getting in.

I've said from the get go. That view has wobbled a bit over his handling of covid and BLM but his core support I don't think has wavered one bit.

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6 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

I've said from the get go. That view has wobbled a bit over his handling of covid and BLM but his core support I don't think has wavered one bit.

Perhaps, though I'm not so sure.

 

Regardless... his core support isn't enough to win on it's own.

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There's a Ohio ( Republican) Senate guy railing againgst Government Tyranny about mask wearing.

 

A real scientist debunks his masks denying you oxygen nonsense

 

YouTube too original down but 

"Nino Vitali busted " in its search engine should fine it

 

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So Trump on Monday in an interview

 

So, we’ve done a good job. I think we are going to be in two, three, four weeks, by the time we next speak, I think we’re going to be in very good shape.

 

Today 60,000 new cases.

Over 3 million cases in total

28  successive days of record high totals

 

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12 hours ago, L00b said:

In the same way the British voted for Johnson : within a very flawed and imbalanced voting system beset by vote suppression issues.

 

Lest people forget, Clinton got more votes than Trump.

 

So get ready for Biden getting more votes than Trump, but still not get in.

I'll educate you.

 

The electoral college is there to give all the smaller states a voice. if it was not in place then a 319 square mile area of New York with a high population density  could decide the vote of over 3 million square miles of country.

 

There are 3,141 counties in the United States, and Donald Trump won the overwhelming majority(2,626 for Trump to 487 for Clinton). There are 62 counties in New York State. Trump won in 45 counties. Clinton won only 17 counties.

Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes in New York City's five counties (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond and Queens). Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump as Clinton won four of these counties and Trump only won, Richmond. These five counties alone more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country. These five New York counties comprise 319 square miles. The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.

 

If a popular vote decided the election a president would never have to visit a smaller state ever again. They would only ever campaign in densely populated areas because smaller states would be irrelevant.

 

The most populated states are California at 40 million, Texas at 29 million, Florida at 21 million and New York at 20 million. The next five states have 10 million to 13 million. The other 41 states have less than 7 million each, down to Wyoming with 600,000 voters. 9 states would determine the president every single time. That is exactly what the founders did not want even when there were 14 states.

 

The grey areas on the map below would be irrelevant. Only the highest populated states would matter for any campaigning, and that's why the electoral college exists. The US has never been a direct democracy, it is a representative democracy. It would be similar in the UK if London just had all the voting power for the rest of the country. No other city comes close to having the voting power of London in the UK.

 

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2 minutes ago, XXTickerXX said:

I'll educate you.

 

The electoral college is there to give all the smaller states a voice. if it was not in place then a 319 square mile area of New York with a high population density  could decide the vote of over 3 million square miles of country.

 

There are 3,141 counties in the United States, and Donald Trump won the overwhelming majority(2,626 for Trump to 487 for Clinton). There are 62 counties in New York State. Trump won in 45 counties. Clinton won only 17 counties.

Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes in New York City's five counties (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond and Queens). Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump as Clinton won four of these counties and Trump only won, Richmond. These five counties alone more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country. These five New York counties comprise 319 square miles. The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.

 

If a popular vote decided the election a president would never have to visit a smaller state ever again. They would only ever campaign in densely populated areas because smaller states would be irrelevant.

 

The most populated states are California at 40 million, Texas at 29 million, Florida at 21 million and New York at 20 million. The next five states have 10 million to 13 million. The other 41 states have less than 7 million each, down to Wyoming with 600,000 voters. 9 states would determine the president every single time. That is exactly what the founders did not want even when there were 14 states.

 

The grey areas on the map below would be irrelevant. Only the highest populated states would matter for any campaigning, and that's why the electoral college exists. The US has never been a direct democracy, it is a representative democracy. It would be similar in the UK if London just had all the voting power for the rest of the country. No other city comes close to having the voting power of London in the UK.

 

electoral-college-population.jpg

And some of us thought that democracy was approximately that every vote should carry equal weight.

 

You appear to be saying that a handful of folk in a rural area should count the same as thousands in a city.

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6 minutes ago, Longcol said:

And some of us thought that democracy was approximately that every vote should carry equal weight.

 

You appear to be saying that a handful of folk in a rural area should count the same as thousands in a city.

Are you saying minorities don't matter?

 

I thought that's what the left advocated for all the time. Not unless you are complete hypocrites.

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6 minutes ago, XXTickerXX said:

Are you saying minorities don't matter?

 

I thought that's what the left advocated for all the time. Not unless you are complete hypocrites.

The left has always advocated equality - ie each vote carries the carries the same weight. 

 

The Republicans appear to prefer a couple of folk in a rural area carrying the same weight as thousands in cities - and putting up obstacles for city dwellers to register and to vote.

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2 minutes ago, Longcol said:

The left has always advocated equality - ie each vote carries the carries the same weight. 

 

The Republicans appear to prefer a couple of folk in a rural area carrying the same weight as thousands in cities - and putting up obstacles for city dwellers to register and to vote.

To ignore the voting power afforded by the Electoral College for the other 41 smaller states and 3,048 smaller counties would be discriminatory. I thought you hated discrimination and now you are all for it!!

Every western country is a representative democracy. Yet Liberals just cry about the US. Please give me that massive list of countries you have that are a direct democracy. They are all run on area systems like the US.

 

Please pray tell what obstacles they are stopping people voting. I am guessing this will be fun.

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