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30 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Hmmm, it doesn't seem like that's what I'm saying :roll:...  or Mueller either! :hihi:

 

As far as obstruction goes, he's as guilty as anyone could possibly be.

Except according to the law he is not. Or has he been charged with something you are privy to and the rest of the world does not know about?

 

Trump has said they can release the whole thing un-redacted he does not care. The thing is they cannot because of the amount of innocent people whose names are in there who have done nothing wrong. Muellers team were the ones that did any redaction's.

 

They weren't looking for anything in particular. They were looking for ANYTHING. Not just Russian involvement. It was a hunt with no goal except to dig up dirt on someone, with no accountability and no budget and the full power of the FBI / NSA/ CIA on it's side. If it was just about Russia, people wouldn't be in jail right now. They thought they could find loads on trump but he turned up clean as a whistle. 

 

They went after any and everyone associated with Trump... his family, his lawyer, his business partners, his staff. No one was safe. The message was clear.... it's dangerous to be around this person that we are targeting. NONE of those targeted were related to the alleged goal of the investigation. They put people in jail for tax crap over a decade ago. The precedent set here is frightening.

 

 

And that is why Trump will win by a landslide at the next election. He has got more done than any other president whilst being hamstrung all along, keeping his election promises whilst everyone about him tried to stop him. All it has done is make him more powerful. I mean the man is a Billionaire who sleeps with a supermodel and gets refunds from porn stars. What's not to love about him.
 

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1 minute ago, hackey lad said:

Whats your thoughts on Mr Trump ?

LOL... must... try... harder. You need a new M.O I'm afraid ;)

 

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8 minutes ago, Magilla said:

LOL... must... try... harder. You need a new M.O I'm afraid ;)

 

No M.O my friend , just a polite question . I was courteous enough to answer yours

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Just now, XXTickerXX said:

Except according to the law he is not. Or has he been charged with something you are privy to and the rest of the world does not know about?

Mueller has laid out the evidence, it's clear he's decided it would be up to others to decide if any charges should be made.

 

From the little I've read, it's clear that Trump is as guilty as could be with regard to obstruction, and do you really believe all those "close advisers" were working away and Trump didn't have a clue what they were doing.... I mean, come on!

 

Ultimately, the public will decide.

 

Just now, XXTickerXX said:

Trump has said they can release the whole thing un-redacted he does not care.

Of course, Trump is a well documented liar :hihi:

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/19/trump-aides-mueller-report-1283128

 

What's really funny is that even now, you still believe a word he says! :loopy:

 

Just now, XXTickerXX said:

They weren't looking for anything in particular. They were looking for ANYTHING. Not just Russian involvement.

It's clear from the reports contents and multiple indictments, charges and guilty pleas that there was plenty to find!

 

... how's it go... but but... Hillary! :thumbsup:

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11 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

No M.O my friend , just a polite question . I was courteous enough to answer yours

I asked your views on the obstruction/collusion charges that *you* said you wanted to discuss :roll:

 

I don't know what you were replying to, but it wasn't my question! :loopy:

 

Of course, you know this... it's your standard M.O. As before, it's getting a bit hackneyed, get a new act! :thumbsup:

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10 minutes ago, Magilla said:

I asked your views on the obstruction/collusion charges that *you* said you wanted to discuss :roll:

 

I don't know what you were replying to, but it wasn't my question! :loopy:

 

Of course, you know this... it's your standard M.O. As before, it's getting a bit hackneyed, get a new act! :thumbsup:

Nowt to add then .  At least until you can dig up something else to accuse Mr Trump of ;)

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I was reading about President Kennedy and his brother Ted Kennedy who was a 

senator.  What a pair they have both been when it comes to women, no need to call Trump for being a womaniser.  President J F Kennedy was suppose to be the most prolific womaniser to enter The White House.  It’s well known that President Kennedy was having an affair with Marilyn Monroe, some say she was murdered because she couldn’t keep quiet about the affair. 

 

Senator Ted Kennedy who was tipped to be President until he drove his car into a pond and left his lady passenger trapped in the submerged car.  He managed to save himself, left the woman in the car and didn’t report it until the next day.  She could have been alive for some time in the car.

 

For the short time theses men are Presiedent, Head of Security, Commander in Chief, power to press the red button and what other titles go with the job I would have thought  they would give the job there full attention and not put themselves under stress trying to hide their affairs from the media,  leave woman alone, other than their wives, until they have finished their time as President.  

 

While he is President I don’t think Trump would be as stupid as President Kennedy to have an affair with a loose cannon like Monroe was, or to have an affair in The Oval Office as Clinton did. Once they are out of the White House and they want to carry on with their floozys, well that’s up to them.

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1 hour ago, Magilla said:

Mueller has laid out the evidence, it's clear he's decided it would be up to others to decide if any charges should be made.

 

And they have. You can't obstruct a crime if there was not a crime to obstruct in the first place. Full exoneration. 

 

2 hours ago, Magilla said:

Ultimately, the public will decide.

They already did. Trump is president. For 6 more years.

 

2 hours ago, Magilla said:

It's clear from the reports contents and multiple indictments, charges and guilty pleas that there was plenty to find!

Seems to the world they couldn't find anything at all on Trump and Russia which is what the special counsel was tasked to do. I understand if you want to keep wearing that tin foil hat though. 

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14 hours ago, hackey lad said:

Nowt to add then .

LOL, don't tell me, you can't see the irony there :hihi:

 

14 hours ago, hackey lad said:

At least until you can dig up something else to accuse Mr Trump of ;)

I didn't have to dig it up, *you* specifically asked to discuss it... :roll:

 

You're now bending over backwards to discuss *anything* but that, as always... so thanks for proving my point :thumbsup:

 

 

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11 hours ago, XXTickerXX said:

And they have.

Indeed:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-russia-poll/trump-approval-drops-3-points-to-2019-low-after-release-of-mueller-report-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUKKCN1RV16W

 

Anyone who is capable of reading can see thatTrump is guilty as could possibly be in regard to obstruction.

 

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You can't obstruct a crime if there was not a crime to obstruct in the first place.

Laughable! :loopy:

 

Obstruction in of itself is a crime, it matters not what is being investigated! :roll:

 

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Full exoneration. 

"While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

 

I can see the confusion, because "does not exonerate" and "full exoneration" sound identical.. don't they? :hihi:

 

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2 hours ago, Magilla said:

LOL, don't tell me, you can't see the irony there :hihi:

 

I didn't have to dig it up, *you* specifically asked to discuss it... :roll:

 

You're now bending over backwards to discuss *anything* but that, as always... so thanks for proving my point :thumbsup:

 

 

Where did I specifically ask to discuss it ?  If as you say he is guilty of all these crimes,  when was this proven and when does his prison sentence start ?

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41 minutes ago, hackey lad said:

Where did I specifically ask to discuss it ?

Don't tell me, you can't remember what you posted two days ago. Figures :?

 

"Mr Trump . Not involved in Russian collusion .😊  Discuss"

https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/450979-mr-trump-all-discussion-here/?do=findComment&comment=8235065

 

 

Even by your totally predicable M.O... desperately weak that one! :hihi:

 

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If as you say he is guilty of all these crimes,  when was this proven and when does his prison sentence start ?

So, to be clear, given the publication and details released in the Mueller report, you think he's completely innocent?

 

Given what 14 Republican senators said when Clinton was accused of *exactly* the same thing, that seems hard to justify, but I look forward to you trying :hihi:

ttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/20/mueller-report-impeachment-obstruction-bill-clinton-republicans

 

Why don't you want to tell us what *you* think?

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