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[trastrick 866]

10 hours ago, Longcol said:

The majority of the 100,000 that died in the first month of the Biden presidency will have been infected when Trump was still president and more concerned with lying about a stolen election than the welfare of US citizens.

Joe inherited effective vaccines, developed inder the Trump Administration.

 

And he still managed to preside over another 600,000 or so COVID fatalities 

 

[Magilla 510]

1 hour ago, trastrick said:

Joe inherited effective vaccines, developed inder the Trump Administration.

...and a totally botched vaccination rollout from start to finish

 

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And he still managed to preside over another 600,000 or so COVID fatalities 

...as a direct result of Republican intransigence/ignorance/messaging

 

 

Who exactly are you trying to convince?

Edited June 25, 2022 by Magilla

[butlers 261]

4 US ex Presidents were publicly vaccinated and encouraged others too. 

I ex President hid his vaccination status and undermined health officials at every turn.

 

 

 

 

Johnathon Swans father was an epidemiologist 

[melthebell 863]

You have to remember in the US the different states have different powers. It's not all down to the president, there's a lot of right wing republican governors, etc that will put conspiracy theories and vaccine hesitancy to the fore

[harvey19 541]

Mr. Trump is certainly a man that will be remembered for ever more.

There is more interest in him than our own past Prime Ministers

[crookesey 635]

4 minutes ago, harvey19 said:

Mr. Trump is certainly a man that will be remembered for ever more.

There is more interest in him than our own past Prime Ministers

Churchill has been remembered for longer than Trump has been alive.

[harvey19 541]

2 hours ago, crookesey said:

Churchill has been remembered for longer than Trump has been alive.

Fully agree but Mr. Churchill is remembered because of WW2 mainly.

[crookesey 635]

9 minutes ago, harvey19 said:

Fully agree but Mr. Churchill is remembered because of WW2 mainly.

A little research would further your cause, he was First Lord of the Admiralty at the start of WW1 and went on to command  battle troops, he also had a very interesting inter war time.

[trastrick 866]

Churchill was booted from office by Labour, at the end of the war, but after the Labour Government was itself defeated in 1951, Churchill came back as PM.

 

He was hated by the Left, and in our house both my grandfathers would switch off the wireless whever he came on.

 

When he died the country, and the whole world honored him.

 

WIKI

 

"Worldwide, numerous memorials have been dedicated to Churchill. His statue in Parliament Square was unveiled by his widow Clementine in 1973 and is one of only twelve in the square, all of prominent political figures, including Churchill's friend Lloyd George and his India policy nemesis Gandhi.^[465]

 

^[466] Elsewhere in London, the wartime Cabinet War Rooms have been renamed the Churchill Museum and Cabinet War Rooms.^[467] Churchill College, Cambridge, was established as a national memorial to Churchill. An indication of Churchill's high esteem in the UK is the result of the 2002 BBC poll, attracting 447,423 votes, in which he was voted the greatest Briton of all time, his nearest rival being Isambard Kingdom Brunel some 56,000 votes behind.^[468]

 

He is one of only eight people to be granted honorary citizenship of the United States; others include Lafayette, Raoul Wallenberg and Mother Teresa.^[469] The United States Navy honoured him in 1999 by naming a new Arleigh Burke-class destroyer as the USS Winston S. Churchill.^[470] Other memorials in North America include the National Churchill Museum in Fulton, Missouri, where he made the 1946 "Iron Curtain" speech; Churchill Square in central Edmonton, Alberta; and the Winston Churchill Range, a mountain range northwest of Lake Louise, also in Alberta, which was renamed after Churchill in 1956.^[471]

 

^{Can Donald Trump pull off such a revival?} 

 

 

 

Edited June 25, 2022 by trastrick

[crookesey 635]

1 minute ago, trastrick said:

Churchill was booted from office by Labour, at the end of the war, but after the Labour Government was itself defeated in 1951, Churchill came back as PM.

Labour we’re very hard on the folk that fought in the war and on the home front, however what did it for them was the cinemas showing the Americans having the time of their lives.

 

 

[trastrick 866]

3 hours ago, Magilla said:

...and a totally botched vaccination rollout from start to finish

 

...as a direct result of Republican intransigence/ignorance/messaging

 

 

Who exactly are you trying to convince?

I wouldn't dream of trying to convince the "Russian Collusion", "Secret Trump Tower Servers to Russian Banks" conspiracy theory nuts of anything! 

Edited June 25, 2022 by trastrick

[Magilla 510]

55 minutes ago, trastrick said:

I wouldn't dream of trying to convince the "Russian Collusion", "Secret Trump Tower Servers to Russian Banks" conspiracy theory nuts of anything! 

Your desperation is palpable!