Top Cats Hat   10 #3601 Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, JamesR123 said: It comes under freedom of speech and is, by definition, not racist. If it is done in all cases including to white Canadians or South Africans then I agree that it is not racist.  When it is done with not one, not two, not three but four non white female congresswomen, you can bet your bottom dollar that it is racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #3602 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, XXTickerXX said: It's election season. He is now getting the Democrats to rally around an extreme left American hating, Israel hating Somali Muslim who loves Al Qaeda. Slanderous and frankly delusional. Quote Omar: "I took a terrorism class...every time the professor said 'al-Qaida' his shoulders went up.''   You're claiming this is evidence of what? What Trump and his lickspittles don't point out is that Congresswoman Omar said -  " what we know, and what Islam teaches us, and what I always say, is that love trumps hate." She also said, "Regardless of how hard Washington might get for me, or your neighborhoods might get for you, you have to always remember that we have a mission as humans to love one another, to care for our neighbors, to raise compassionate children, and to fully, every single day, show up and make sure that we are furthering justice."  The emboldened section reveals readily that she's a better human being than the amoral, moneygrubbing weasel Trump can ever be. Edited July 17, 2019 by Halibut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #3603 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Stephen King - who knows a thing or two about horror - has his eye on the ball. In a tweeted response to news that border agents are going to start raiding homes in some Cities - "First, you stoke hatred and fear of minorities," wrote King. "Then you round them up and put them in camps. "Next, you send out raiding parties to get those who have been driven into hiding," he continued. "The armbands come next right?"  https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/books/2019/07/15/stephen-king-slams-donald-trump-twitter-armbands-come-next-right/1734332001/ Edited July 17, 2019 by Halibut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spilldig   174 #3604 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Magilla said: Indeed.... clearly was too difficult for poor ole spill Difficult for you to understand democracy it seems. If the constitutional boundaries were wrong before the vote why do you only mention it after Trump got voted in ? Edited July 17, 2019 by spilldig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol   596 #3605 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, spilldig said: Difficult to understand how Hillory got more votes and didn't get in then. Explain. The electorate in each State elect people( say nominees) who decide who becomes President. Big states vote in more nominees. When a party wins a state (usually) all the nominees will be from that party, As you cannot have fractions of nominees, some states are under and some are over represented. Last time the Republican nominees won more over represented states. So the actual number of Democrat voters was higher. Edited July 17, 2019 by Annie Bynnol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #3606 Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said: The electorate in each State elect people( say nominees) who decide who becomes President. Big states vote in more nominees. When a party wins a state (usually) all the nominees will be from that party, As you cannot have fractions of nominees, some states are under and some are over represented. Last time the Republican nominees won more over represented states. So the actual number of Democrat voters was higher. Sounds very Democratic, lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JamesR123   0 #3607 Posted July 17, 2019 It is the way democracy works in pretty much every country including this one. Off the top of my head, Switzerland is the only place that has a direct democracy.  It could happen here. To get a majority you need to return 326 MPs. Imagine a scenario in which the Tories got 326 MPS and Labour got 250. All the Tories were elected on 51 percent of the vote, whereas all Labour winning MPs got over 90 percent of the vote.  Labour would have got my votes, but returned less MPs.  In recent elections, UKIP have returned very high percentages of the vote (up to 8%), but have got no representation.  Democracy can be a funny old game.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol   596 #3608 Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, melthebell said: Sounds very Democratic, lol It gets worse. It is possible for the nominees to change their minds. Each state has different voting rules. Trump with 62,979,63  or 46% of the vote won a majority in 30 states to get 305 electoral votes plus 1 electoral vote from part of Maine. Hillary Clinton with 65,844,610 or 48.1% of the votes but only won 20 states and Washington, D.C. to get 232 electoral votes.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JamesR123 Â Â 0 #3609 Posted July 17, 2019 Added to the above, the electoral college are not legally bound to follow the outcome of the vote. Â They could just ignore the public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol   596 #3610 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JamesR123 said: It is the way democracy works in pretty much every country including this one. Off the top of my head, Switzerland is the only place that has a direct democracy.  It could happen here. To get a majority you need to return 326 MPs. Imagine a scenario in which the Tories got 326 MPS and Labour got 250. All the Tories were elected on 51 percent of the vote, whereas all Labour winning MPs got over 90 percent of the vote.  Labour would have got my votes, but returned less MPs.  In recent elections, UKIP have returned very high percentages of the vote (up to 8%), but have got no representation.  Democracy can be a funny old game.   Comparing with the USA: We don't have a President. We don't have an elected second house. We don't have a Federal system. A President can only serve two years. People have a say who becomes the elected leader not a tiny minority of unrepresentitive club members.  As for the Swiss system, it is specifically designed not to be a majority Democratic system It is designed to prevent the the German speaking urban areas from dominating the rural areas and other language and culturally different language groups.  7 minutes ago, JamesR123 said: Added to the above, the electoral college are not legally bound to follow the outcome of the vote.  They could just ignore the public. Already said that. Edited July 17, 2019 by Annie Bynnol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hauxwell   233 #3611 Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said: USA:  9 minutes ago, JamesR123 said: Added to the above, the electoral college are not legally bound to follow the outcome of the vote.  They could just ignore the public.  4 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said: Comparing with the USA: We don't have a President. We don't have an elected second house. We don't have a Federal system. A President can only serve two years. People have a say who becomes the elected leader not a tiny minority of unrepresentitive club members.  Already said that. I thought a President could stand for election twice, each term being 4 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol   596 #3612 Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, hauxwell said:   I thought a President could stand for election twice, each term being 4 years. My mistake - I should have said two terms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...