Mr Trump - All discussion here

[Dimple 10]

Name one. Go on.

 

 

Promises kept.

 

To nominate a Supreme Court Justice

To withdraw from Paris climate agreement

To reduce environmental regulations

To crackdown on immigration

To renegotiate trade deals

 

Oooh, that's rather awkward.

[Phanerothyme 12]

There should any need to. The trouble with Trump is that he's keeping his promises, and quickly.

 

The keeping of these promises is only a problem inasmuch as the promises themselves (many of them) are deliberately divisive and provocative.

 

It's a kind of policy strategy -stress test the status quo and see what breaks, then try and control the fallout in a way that maximises profit.

 

So opening the new US embassy in Jerusalem on the 70th anniversary of the foundation of the state of Israel, and the displacement of thousands of people, was evidently designed to provoke maximum backlash.

 

Trump owes his presidency to the Christian right, a group of people who fervently believe that igniting 'the final conflict' in the Holy Land will bring about the Rapture, and that they all have golden tickets for the flight to heaven when the time comes - so the sooner the better!

 

This will have been one of the conditions of their support.

 

"Donnie, we want you to immanentize the eschaton."

"Sure, great, whatever you need, I'll do it greatly"

"We won't forget this Donnie"

[hackey lad 3,980]

The keeping of these promises is only a problem inasmuch as the promises themselves (many of them) are deliberately divisive and provocative.

 

It's a kind of policy strategy -stress test the status quo and see what breaks, then try and control the fallout in a way that maximises profit.

 

So opening the new US embassy in Jerusalem on the 70th anniversary of the foundation of the state of Israel, and the displacement of thousands of people, was evidently designed to provoke maximum backlash.

 

Trump owes his presidency to the Christian right, a group of people who fervently believe that igniting 'the final conflict' in the Holy Land will bring about the Rapture, and that they all have golden tickets for the flight to heaven when the time comes - so the sooner the better!

 

This will have been one of the conditions of their support.

 

Wow , just wow ......

[Dimple 10]

In a new outbreak of ugliness and inviting direct comparisons to Hitler, Mr Trump gas been describing illegal immigrants as 'animals'. https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/pavbz8/trump-calls-undocumented-immigrants-animals

 

Are you being deliberately dishonest?

He was talking about MS13.

[cgksheff 44]

Are you being deliberately dishonest?

He was talking about MS13.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/us/trump-animals-ms-13-gangs.amp.html

 

This is the video of the meeting concerned.

 

Watch the beginning for context and then go to 23:00

Edited May 18, 2018 by cgksheff

[Halibut 12]

Are you being deliberately dishonest?

He was talking about MS13.

 

No, that would be Mr Trump, one of the biggest liars in the world - and a sex offender too.

[ENG601PM 10]

The keeping of these promises is only a problem inasmuch as the promises themselves (many of them) are deliberately divisive and provocative.

 

I don't disagree, however.

So opening the new US embassy in Jerusalem on the 70th anniversary of the foundation of the state of Israel, and the displacement of thousands of people, was evidently designed to provoke maximum backlash.

Clinton, (W) Bush and Obama also made the same promise but only Trump kept it after an initial deferment. Make of that what you will about presidents keeping their promises but it looks crystal clear to me that Trump's record at keeping difficult promises is good.

 

I'd rather Trump does keep his promises and as overtly as possible, no matter how divisive, subject to human decency of course. That way he can be judged on his actions, not his rhetoric, when the time comes to review his position in 2021.

[Halibut 12]

 

I'd rather Trump does keep his promises and as overtly as possible, no matter how divisive, subject to human decency of course. That way he can be judged on his actions, not his rhetoric, when the time comes to review his position in 2021.

 

You won't much of that in a sexual predator who refers to illegal immigrants as 'animals' and who values money over human dignity.

[Calahonda 11]

You won't much of that in a sexual predator who refers to illegal immigrants as 'animals' and who values money over human dignity.

 

14 kept, 16 broken, 15 launched but gone quiet, 8 stuck, 7 compromises

 

Quite a good rundown of them here:-

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-promise-tracker/?utm_term=.278fbf8d1968

 

Old fish face knows far better than a well respected American newspaper.

[ENG601PM 10]

You won't much of that in a sexual predator who refers to illegal immigrants as 'animals' and who values money over human dignity.

 

Your contention is that he hasn't kept one promise but that is incorrect.

 

He might be an awful person, but he's keeping promises that other presidents broke. I can see both of those aspects of his character, but you only seem to acknowledge one for some reason.

[Calahonda 11]

Your contention is that he hasn't kept one promise but that is incorrect.

 

He might be an awful person, but he's keeping promises that other presidents broke. I can see both of those aspects of his character, but you only seem to acknowledge one for some reason.

 

You’re wasting your time mate.

[Dimple 10]

No, that would be Mr Trump, one of the biggest liars in the world -

 

Should be easy to prove then.

Go on, prove Mr Trump is one of the biggest liars in the world.

 

 

and a sex offender too.

 

At the risk of repeating myself, Prove it.

 

---------- Post added 18-05-2018 at 09:09 ----------

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/17/us/trump-animals-ms-13-gangs.amp.html

 

This is the video of the meeting concerned.

 

Watch the beginning for context and then go to 23:00

 

Cheers for that