Bob Arctor   11 #49 Posted September 22, 2017 You're right in that I haven't provided any proof. But you're wrong if you think that makes it an opinion, I've clearly made statements that I belief to be factual.  Christ, AJ Ayer must be spinning in his grave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
bazjea   10 #50 Posted September 22, 2017 Originally Posted by Cyclone View Post You're right in that I haven't provided any proof. But you're wrong if you think that makes it an opinion, I've clearly made statements that I belief to be factual.  You certainly have got it wrong, about a long gone roundabout at Leppings Lane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999 Â Â 10 #51 Posted September 22, 2017 That's because they kept the side roads open, as they were criticised for closing them off in the past. Â You can't have it both ways.. Â Why do you have to have lights to control side roads ? You dont . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Andy C Â Â 85 #52 Posted September 22, 2017 When you have a council that is so openly Anti Car , what else do you expect. Â I don't think they are anti car given they do things that mess up efficient running of public transport too. Â I think they just don't really get transport. Well at least the politician types don't anyway, there are probably good professional planners in both the council and SYPTE despairing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Arthur Ritus   30 #53 Posted September 23, 2017 Clay wheels lane sums it up. A traffic light in someone's garden, ok theres a block of 4 houses that use that drive but really  About 30 years a go my old dad whilst driving on Penistone road used to say he wished he had shares in the traffic light company as there were so many springing up. There must be about 10 times as many now, it really is ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Puggie   10 #54 Posted September 23, 2017 How do Sheffield road planners get it so wrong?  Because they're from Sheffield?... *hides* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
darylslinn   10 #55 Posted September 23, 2017 I also believe that traffic lights have a psychological effect on drivers.... you come to a junction where the lights are out and you will normally find drivers being more cautious and courteous in letting others out at the junction. Park Square roundabout always felt like a better place to drive when the lights were out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
bazjea   10 #56 Posted September 23, 2017 Clay wheels lane sums it up. A traffic light in someone's garden, ok theres a block of 4 houses that use that drive but really  About 30 years a go my old dad whilst driving on Penistone road used to say he wished he had shares in the traffic light company as there were so many springing up. There must be about 10 times as many now, it really is ridiculous.  It's not just 4 houses though. It is the entrance to Niagra ground and Sheffield police sport and social club! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Planner1 Â Â 428 #57 Posted September 25, 2017 When you have a council that is so openly Anti Car , what else do you expect. Â Clearly not everyone agrees with you. Sheffield has just been found to be in the top three of the UK's most car friendly cities: https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyre-article/ranked-the-most-car-friendly-cities-in-the-uk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jonny5 Â Â 10 #58 Posted September 25, 2017 The car is outmoded for cities but central government won't help with mass transit outside of their own little bubble-London. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #59 Posted September 25, 2017 Clearly not everyone agrees with you. Sheffield has just been found to be in the top three of the UK's most car friendly cities: https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyre-article/ranked-the-most-car-friendly-cities-in-the-uk I've read the article but I can't see any sample size, confidence levels, etc. And there's no factoring-in of road planning there, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jimherb1980 Â Â 10 #60 Posted September 25, 2017 Thing I like on penistone while ime driving on it is the cycle path that runs nearly the full length of it now,as I pass yet another cyclist driving on the road(until next set of lights stop me and they go up the inside of me)my point is if they don't use it why keep spending money on cycle paths red tarmac costs more than black how much did the road widening outside emr cost just to make a shared fway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...