melthebell   863 #97 Posted September 8, 2017 meanwhile in other news, racist idiots say sorry after graffiting ahouse owned by hindus with pakistani muslim insults Oo  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41178811  Star wars actor to play Enoch Powell http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41174659 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #98 Posted September 9, 2017 meanwhile in other news, racist idiots say sorry after graffiting ahouse owned by hindus with pakistani muslim insults  I'm sure the Hindus accepted the apology . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
OLDPARTS Â Â 10 #99 Posted September 9, 2017 Bosnian muslims joined the waffen ss and so did turkish volunteers who also fought with the germans in ww2 and committed atrocities , the grand mufti of palestine wanted to take sides with the germans too . Not exactly a fact that the nazis were anti islam ,anti jew yes , they murdered over 6 million Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #100 Posted September 9, 2017 Bosnian muslims joined the waffen ss and so did turkish volunteers who also fought with the germans in ww2 and committed atrocities , the grand mufti of palestine wanted to take sides with the germans too . Not exactly a fact that the nazis were anti islam ,anti jew yes , they murdered over 6 million  So your point is..? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
blake   10 #101 Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) the grand mufti of palestine wanted to take sides with the germans  the Mufti Al-Husayni didn't just want to, he DID take sides, with the Germans.  however Al-Husayni wasn't the 'Grand Mufti of Palestine'. The Arabs would never have used such a word, as Palestine is not an Arabic language word at all, it is a Latin-European word, and there is no P sound in the Arabic language.  Al-Husayni was the Grand Mufti of not Palestine, but Jerusalem.  during the British Mandatory Period, Jewish people, not Arabs, were by far the likelier to describe themselves as 'Palestinians'. Hence among many other examples, the Palestine National Soccer Team that played international fixtures in the 1930s, was composed entirely of Jewish players and later became the Israel National Soccer Team which these days is not a Jewish-only soccer team at all and always fields several Arab players. Edited September 10, 2017 by blake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
OLDPARTS Â Â 10 #102 Posted September 10, 2017 Thank you i stand corrected . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #103 Posted September 10, 2017 Not exactly a fact that the nazis were anti islam ,anti jew yes , they murdered over 6 million  And yet here we are today, neo-nazis now siding with the descendants of the murdered 6 million, against Muslims.  You really couldn't make it up, could you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WestTinsley   11 #104 Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) Some links on Apartheid isreal and Zionist revisionisms transfer policys that many Isreali settlers in Palestine advocate   The Zionist Right's historic ties to European fascism https://972mag.com/an-alliance-of-ha...facism/118580/  Zionist Revisionism http://www.palestine-studies.org/jps/fulltext/38833  -------  The origins of the Iron Wall: Zionist settlers during the mandate https://rs21.org.uk/2014/09/04/the-o...g-the-mandate/  ----------  http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/...le0021456.html  ----------  Fascist Zionism - Abner Barnatan https://libcom.org/library/brownshir...onism-barnatan  ----------  http://www.angryarab.blogspot.ch/2009/02/israeli-elections.html?m=1 Edited September 10, 2017 by WestTinsley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
blake   10 #105 Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) And yet here we are today, neo-nazis now siding with the descendants of the murdered 6 million, against Muslims. You really couldn't make it up, could you.  yes, you can. And in fact that's exactly what the eldetronicintifada.com article has done. They just made it up.  a far-right Nazi Stormfront type attended a pro-Palestinian demo in London to picket it. Some bloke with a Jewish-sounding name and apparently in a Zionist org. did too, who they, electronicintifada.com then claim is 'fostering ties' with the Stormfront guy. Of course they don't do anything such as providing a photograph of the two together, or even providing any evidence that the two have ever even met. To illustrate the article, they have a photograph of the Stormfront guy from TWO YEARS AGO with a bunch of people in the background at the same demonstration, who clearly from their body language have nothing to do with the Stormfront guy, who are flying a Star of David flag.  ---------- Post added 11-09-2017 at 08:36 ----------  Some links on Apartheid isreal and Zionist revisionisms transfer policys that many Isreali settlers in Palestine advocate  The Zionist Right's historic ties to European fascism https://972mag.com/an-alliance-of-ha...facism/118580/  Zionist Revisionism http://www.palestine-studies.org/jps/fulltext/38833  -------  The origins of the Iron Wall: Zionist settlers during the mandate https://rs21.org.uk/2014/09/04/the-o...g-the-mandate/  ----------  http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/...le0021456.html  ----------  Fascist Zionism - Abner Barnatan https://libcom.org/library/brownshir...onism-barnatan  ----------  http://www.angryarab.blogspot.ch/2009/02/israeli-elections.html?m=1  two of those links don't work.  the one that does, the middle one, is a very tortuous pseudo-academic 'examination' of Jabotinsky that asks the question, 'was Jabotinsky a fascist?' and eventually, after rambling along interminably basically says that no he probably wasn't a fascist, but that some of his followers probably were. It also says that some of the Likud people that Jabotinsky inspired, like Begin, Shamir, and Netanayahu are kind of a bit like fascists too.  but of course Jabotinsky was no fascist. He wasn't an authoritarian, wasn't a racist and believed in the rights of minorities including Arabs, believed in a free press and in multi-party democracy. For sure he disliked communism, and was right-of-centre but so are countless millions of other people who, like Jabotinsky, are nowhere near fascists.  and of course none of the Likud figures mentioned, like Begin, Shamir and Netanayahu are fascists either. They like Jabotinsky are right-of-centre democrats too. They've stood in Israeli elections in a multi-party democratic system and sometimes, they've lost the elections and been booted out of office by the voters.  did that ever happen with the likes of Mussolini, Hitler and Franco? Edited September 11, 2017 by blake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WestTinsley   11 #106 Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) I'm still waiting for you to answer the many questions in 2 or so previous posts that you chose to ignore.. Rather than waffling on and defending a russian zionist fascist .. As for fascism in isreal it's rife and has been from the get go. For some one to deny That or defend Zionist fascists says more about you than what youre defending- a racist settler apartheid state .. the expulsion of the native population ie over 89% was planned ... and has been in operation since 48 (Google "plan dalet").. land thefts and illegal expulsions have carried on unabaited ..year after year.. calls for genocide of the Palestinians by Religious Zionists and the Rightist Zionists hardly raises an eyebrow amongst those who quietly support it. Edited September 11, 2017 by WestTinsley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
blake   10 #107 Posted September 11, 2017 as Jabotinsky envisaged Arabs were always going to be present in the future Israel and with the equal rights under the law, representation in government, civil service, etc although not yet quite on the absolutely equal level he wanted. Today nearly one in four Israelis are Arabs and the proportion of Israelis who are Arabs is slowly increasing all the time. 20 years ago it was less than one in five. So a pretty incompetent 'expulsion'. And a pretty incompetent 'genocide' too when there is 5 times more Arabs in Israel and the West Bank than there was in 1948, their life expectancy is 30 years more, their educational attainments are improving all the time and they have higher incomes than they ever have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WestTinsley   11 #108 Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Today nearly one in four Israelis are Arabs and the proportion of Israelis who are Arabs is slowly increasing all the time. 20 years ago it was less than one in five. So a pretty incompetent 'expulsion'. And a pretty incompetent 'genocide' too when there is 5 times more Arabs in Israel and the West Bank than there was in 1948, their life expectancy is 30 years more, their educational attainments are improving all the time and they have higher incomes than they ever have. You blame ... Arab maternity rate and life expectancy on the Isreali occupation ..?!..unbelievable.. It's a worldwide trend ... secondly how many Palestinians have been murdered bombed or forcibly exiled since 1949 by the isreali occupation ? 90% of the Palestinian population was ethnically cleansed in 1948.. Like I said read Plan Dalet..  When the UN Resolutions in regard to R.O.R. are implemented amongst the others isreal and usa ignore and have vetoed for decades, then peace will hopefully come for Palestine.. like it did in South Africa. Zionism is a Racist colonialist ideology even in its "Liberal" guises. Edited September 11, 2017 by WestTinsley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...