woodview 10 #1633 Posted March 23, 2019 https://news.sky.com/story/sky-views-sports-transgender-debate-has-been-hijacked-by-hate-11661596 Martina Navritilova, who has long been a spokesperson for lgbt rights, has spoken about this in this article, and her sensible views have put her on the wrong side of those with more extreme views. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 10 #1634 Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said: I couldn't find the bit where it said hormone therapy could shrink someone's height, hands and broad shoulders. Maybe that's an advantage against "cis" (wtf, seriously?!) women? It does substantially reduce muscle mass and testosterone levels Edited March 24, 2019 by I1L2T3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 10 #1635 Posted March 24, 2019 6 hours ago, I1L2T3 said: It does substantially reduce muscle mass and testosterone levels But that's not what I questioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone 10 #1636 Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, WiseOwl182 said: But that's not what I questioned. Performance was what you questioned. But suddenly you're not interested in the actual data and science about performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 10 #1637 Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, WiseOwl182 said: But that's not what I questioned. But those are critical factors relating to an athletes capabilities. And that is what you were discussing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka #1638 Posted March 24, 2019 10 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said: I couldn't find the bit where it said hormone therapy could shrink someone's height, hands and broad shoulders. Maybe that's an advantage against "cis" (wtf, seriously?!) women? “Ciswoman” a word created so people understand that they are a different type of woman so that non-ciswomen don’t feel they are being labelled differently....... anyone else sported the irony yet? Crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hots on 10 #1639 Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, I1L2T3 said: It does substantially reduce muscle mass and testosterone levels I thought artificially altering ones body using chemicals to affect performance was strictly prohibited in professional competitive sport? Edited March 24, 2019 by Hots on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WiseOwl182 10 #1640 Posted March 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Cyclone said: Performance was what you questioned. But suddenly you're not interested in the actual data and science about performance. Height, hand size and shoulder breadth are big factors in many sports, especially tennis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hots on 10 #1641 Posted March 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said: Height, hand size and shoulder breadth are big factors in many sports, especially tennis. Men have generally got bigger frames that no amount of hormone treatment will change. For social justice warriors common sense is swept aside for egalitarianism. A quiet majority think this is all completely silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Robin-H 11 #1642 Posted March 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said: Height, hand size and shoulder breadth are big factors in many sports, especially tennis. I’m sure there are some professional female tennis players who are taller, have larger hands, or broader shoulders than some professional male tennis players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodview 10 #1643 Posted March 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Robin-H said: I’m sure there are some professional female tennis players who are taller, have larger hands, or broader shoulders than some professional male tennis players. Yes, and Martina Navratilova, who is a long term spokesperson for lgbt rights in sport, and knows a thing or two about tennis, has spoken about things going too far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone 10 #1644 Posted April 1, 2019 On 24/03/2019 at 15:47, WiseOwl182 said: Height, hand size and shoulder breadth are big factors in many sports, especially tennis. So you accept that it was performance that you questioned then? And that the evidence disagrees with your opinion which appears to be entirely speculative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...