Gender Fluid etc, Opinions?

[woodview 10]

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-views-sports-transgender-debate-has-been-hijacked-by-hate-11661596

 

Martina Navritilova, who has long been a spokesperson for lgbt rights, has spoken about this in this article, and her sensible views have put her on the wrong side of those with more extreme views.

[I1L2T3 10]

2 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

I couldn't find the bit where it said hormone therapy could shrink someone's height, hands and broad shoulders. Maybe that's an advantage against "cis" (wtf, seriously?!) women?

It does substantially reduce muscle mass and testosterone levels

Edited March 24, 2019 by I1L2T3

[WiseOwl182 10]

6 hours ago, I1L2T3 said:

It does substantially reduce muscle mass and testosterone levels

But that's not what I questioned.

[Cyclone 10]

1 hour ago, WiseOwl182 said:

But that's not what I questioned.

Performance was what you questioned.  But suddenly you're not interested in the actual data and science about performance.

[I1L2T3 10]

1 hour ago, WiseOwl182 said:

But that's not what I questioned.

But those are critical factors relating to an athletes capabilities. And that is what you were discussing.

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10 hours ago, WiseOwl182 said:

I couldn't find the bit where it said hormone therapy could shrink someone's height, hands and broad shoulders. Maybe that's an advantage against "cis" (wtf, seriously?!) women?

“Ciswoman”

 

a word created so people understand that they are a different  type of woman so that non-ciswomen don’t feel they are being labelled  differently.......

 

anyone else sported the irony yet?

 

Crazy.

[Hots on 10]

14 hours ago, I1L2T3 said:

It does substantially reduce muscle mass and testosterone levels

I thought artificially altering ones body using chemicals to affect performance was strictly prohibited in professional competitive sport?

Edited March 24, 2019 by Hots on

[WiseOwl182 10]

6 hours ago, Cyclone said:

Performance was what you questioned.  But suddenly you're not interested in the actual data and science about performance.

Height, hand size and shoulder breadth are big factors in many sports, especially tennis.

[Hots on 10]

12 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Height, hand size and shoulder breadth are big factors in many sports, especially tennis.

Men have generally got bigger frames that no amount of hormone treatment will change.

 

For social justice warriors common sense is swept aside for egalitarianism. A quiet majority think this is all completely silly.

[Robin-H 11]

15 minutes ago, WiseOwl182 said:

Height, hand size and shoulder breadth are big factors in many sports, especially tennis.

I’m sure there are some professional female tennis players who are taller, have larger hands, or broader shoulders than some professional male tennis players. 

[woodview 10]

13 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

I’m sure there are some professional female tennis players who are taller, have larger hands, or broader shoulders than some professional male tennis players. 

Yes, and Martina Navratilova, who is a long term spokesperson for lgbt rights in sport, and knows a thing or two about tennis, has spoken about things going too far.

[Cyclone 10]

On 24/03/2019 at 15:47, WiseOwl182 said:

Height, hand size and shoulder breadth are big factors in many sports, especially tennis.

So you accept that it was performance that you questioned then?  And that the evidence disagrees with your opinion which appears to be entirely speculative.