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Why HS2? Infrastructure projects directly benefit the ordinary people. Without infrastructure we wouldn't have an economy or any jobs for anyone to do.

And that made up £100 billion (far above the real cost) is spread out over 25 years!

 

How about the £1billion to make a deal with a bunch of anachronistic throwbacks from NI to prop up a failing government, that's an actual scandalous misuse of public funds!

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Why HS2? Infrastructure projects directly benefit the ordinary people. Without infrastructure we wouldn't have an economy or any jobs for anyone to do.

And that made up £100 billion (far above the real cost) is spread out over 25 years!

 

How about the £1billion to make a deal with a bunch of anachronistic throwbacks from NI to prop up a failing government, that's an actual scandalous misuse of public funds!

 

Totally agree about buying the DUP vote.

 

I chose HS2 simply as the first example I could think of. Just my personal view. It will cut 20 minutes off the journey to London. I think it will cost far too much, take far too long to build, and be out of date before it's even finished. I think that money could be better spent. But I understand others think differently. The point is, money always seems to be there for what the governments want.

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I'm not sure I can agree with your theory of resentment Cyclone. What reasons would they have to resent someone for having something that they haven't? I don't resent anyone for having more than we do, I'd like to have a bank balance that doesn't favour red of course I would and in essence I have the same as someone earning thousands a week but it just takes a lot more care to keep it going.

 

It might be that our son struggles to get somewhere of his own, his kids should he have any may do likewise but I'd like to believe that neither will harbour any bitterness to previous generations simply because their lives encounter difficulty. I certainly don't feel as though I owe anyone anything for what we have.

 

We get one chance at life, make the most of it we're told. There's no mention that as you approach your senior years you need to give up thinking of yourself and live instead for the next two generations as some kind of penance.

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The fact that it's engineered and you continue to vote for policies that maintain it.

 

But it's not my theory, just use google, it's a fact.

 

It's the structural changes that have been instigated and maintained and the unfairness of the situation that they resent, not the individuals. They don't expect the individuals to dress in rags and give away their wealth, but they do expect the government to not follow policies that exacerbate the situation. And they'll never forgive the leave voters.

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The fact that it's engineered and you continue to vote for policies that maintain it.

 

But it's not my theory, just use google, it's a fact.

 

It's the structural changes that have been instigated and maintained and the unfairness of the situation that they resent, not the individuals. They don't expect the individuals to dress in rags and give away their wealth, but they do expect the government to not follow policies that exacerbate the situation. And they'll never forgive the leave voters.

 

I think this more a case of you transferring your own displeasure onto others. There are always examples of two minds so that statement carries very little weight.

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And they'll never forgive the leave voters.

 

I think this more a case of you transferring your own displeasure onto others. There are always examples of two minds so that statement carries very little weight.

 

The thing is, Brexit or no Brexit, the road ahead is very rocky: Brexit will have to be successful beyond the dreams of the wildest Brexiteer to overcome the general, overall troubles of the world, and whatever the facts, Brexit will most likely take most of the blame.

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I think this more a case of you transferring your own displeasure onto others. There are always examples of two minds so that statement carries very little weight.

 

I think that you don't know many young people.

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I think that you don't know many young people.

 

That would depend on what you consider to be young but either way, I wouldn't be able to guess their frame of mind for the next 80 odd years.

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The thing is, Brexit or no Brexit, the road ahead is very rocky: Brexit will have to be successful beyond the dreams of the wildest Brexiteer to overcome the general, overall troubles of the world, and whatever the facts, Brexit will most likely take most of the blame.

 

Unfortunately, brexit is going to take one hell of a lot of resource and money which would be much better spent actually tackling the worlds real problems.

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That would depend on what you consider to be young but either way, I wouldn't be able to guess their frame of mind for the next 80 odd years.

 

You could ask them what they think though, my opinion is based on that.

The night of the referendum I was at a student party where they actually burnt effigies of the leave campaign leaders.

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You could ask them what they think though, my opinion is based on that.

The night of the referendum I was at a student party where they actually burnt effigies of the leave campaign leaders.

 

I know feelings ran strong but that was then and this is now but even I can't guarantee that my own opinions will not be susceptible to change over the next 20,30 even 40 years.

I've been young (if memory serves me correctly) and during those times I was more likely to display my feelings more vociferously than I am now. It passes and in the end it doesn't matter. Problems are overcome and replaced by new ones.

 

Besides, politics is a personal thing.

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There are still plenty of flawed views on this old v young resentment thing, like I said it's mostly political bluster that most people can see through by the time they become mature adults.

How many students actually pay back their student loans and at what rate ?

Students grow up and have families too, and many look at things differently when they are older and have those responsibilities, nobody is young forever, we all grow old and die.

I would argue that more and more people who are young now will gain from inheritance, (which includes property quite often), more than previous generations did, so there is a balancing up of fortunes ..... if they really are blinded by this resentment more fool them, again the middle class 'Corbynista' socialists will benefit more than the working class will in this respect, yet seem to do most of the complaining :huh:

Like many other things Brexit will not register with future generations, those too young and not even born yet will know no different, just as our current living generations have suffered little hardship compared to previous ones ..... back to some perspective, and all this current hot air will eventually disappear like it usually does and the vast majority of people will go about living their lives.

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