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Have you ask them what they would like do you vote against them or for them do you listen to them or brush aside their views?

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Yeah, asked my granddaughter she said " wah giggly pluff pluff". She was reaching for the kitty at the time so I assumed she was ignoring me.

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Have you ask them what they would like do you vote against them or for them do you listen to them or brush aside their views?

 

In what sense do we vote for/against them?

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I don't ( and never will) have grandchildren but it doesn't stop me caring about the future of the country (and planet) after I'm gone

 

You never know, I may pass this way again

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..............I worry more about my children, as I don't have grandchildren and never will.

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In what sense do we vote for/against them?

 

When you vote for policies which shift wealth or assistance from the younger to the older generations. There are clear voting preference splits between the young and old, for example in Brexit, in political party, probably for electoral reform (although I'm guessing at that one).

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Well mine seem to have everything , tablets , phones, holidays abroad and so on but I am glad that I was brought up having nowt , playing outside all day every day , paper rounds at eleven saving money to buy things etc, then starting work on 15th bithday.

 

I do worry that they are missing so much in the cosseted World that most kids in the U.K. are used to now.

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There are a few things they're much more unlikely to have.

Like a house they own.

Ever.

 

A decent pension, unless they are part of the top 5% by income, in which case they might be able to save enough to retire one day.

 

A secure job and confidence about the future.

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There are a few things they're much more unlikely to have.

Like a house they own.

Ever.

 

A decent pension, unless they are part of the top 5% by income, in which case they might be able to save enough to retire one day.

 

A secure job and confidence about the future.

 

I am retired and also know many retired people who don't own their home. I also just have a standard state pension like many I know.

 

As for confidence about the future, that applies to almost everyone and the former is down mainly to modernisation and a lot to do with the increase in the service industries.

 

As far a caring about my grandchildrens future though, I care very much and like most with children and grandchildren help them out a great deal. The bank of mum and dad is around 9th on the money lending list as well.

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And yet home ownership has followed this pattern;

 

In 1918 the majority, or 77%, of households in England and Wales rented, with the remaining in ownership.

 

From 1953 ownership started to increase at a faster rate than in previous decades and by 1971 there was an equal percentage of households owning and renting.

Ownership continued to increase, reaching a peak of 69% in 2001, however in the last decade it has fallen to 64%.

 

If that continues then your grandchildren will be less likely to own a home than either your children or you ever were.

I note that you didn't say you don't own your home, only that you know people who don't.

In 2013 nearly 80% of people aged 65+ owned their own home! This was a steady increase when compared to the previous 30 years.

Amongst 25 - 34 year olds though home ownership had peaked in 1991 at about 65%, but by 2013 was down to 35%...

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Have you ask them what they would like do you vote against them or for them do you listen to them or brush aside their views?

Of course we listen to them, and yes the ones old enough to vote voted different to us, their priority at the moment is tuition fees.

In fact Labour winning the election would have been better for us in the short term, as pensioners Corbyn promised to protect the triple lock, do something on social care fees should we ever need it, and certainly his spending commitments would have led to rocketing inflation which would have led to higher interest rates on any savings pensioners might have. But that would have affected the grand kids more than us, costing them in the long term.

There's a commonly held belief by some on here that pensioners had it easy in buying their homes and don't care about the younger generation.

Well, when we were saving to get married and buy a house we hardly went out for two years, didn't have a car at the time, virtually stopped drinking and worked over fifty hours a week, which I carried on doing after getting married and having two kids, (which was all we could afford), we were also paying between six and seven percent interest on our mortgage.

I find it bit ironic that you as someone who is always espousing socialism are living according to your profile in the USA, the most successful, capitalist and entrepreneurial country in the world, try asking your neighbour's if they want to be more socialist.

Our grandkids have all been to the USA at least once, something there was no chance of us doing at their age, and have much more material things than we ever had and good luck to them, and we will continue to help them as much as we can, as far as we're concerned if we've got it and they need it they can have it.

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It's most likely the only way they'll ever own a house, so I hope they don't all mind living together in it.

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