DUP gets £1.5Bn for lending votes.

[sgtkate 10]

so Gerry Adams says its a good deal for Ireland , do you agree with him ?

 

Of course it's a good deal for Northern Ireland in financial terms. They've just got an extra £1bn of funding! If Sheffield was offered the same deal I'd expect our MPs to go for it too, but that's overly simplistic. And Gerry Adams actually said that it MAY be a good deal and well done to Arlene only if they now manage to get the executive back up and running. But the question shouldn't be about whether it's a good deal for NI or not, it's whether it's a good deal for the UK and clearly it isn't. It's now bred incredible resentment from Scotland and Wales understandably, it's undermined the Barnett formula, potentially threatened the Good Friday Agreement and cost the rest of the UK £1bn at a time when the NHS is under extreme pressure, police a struggling with counter-terrorism and we've got getting on for a hundred council/government owned tower blocks that need new cladding. It's an abysmal deal and one the Tories didn't need to make. They could have gone with a minority government and tried to seek agreements on individual bills but that would have forced them into looking beyond their own noses and trying to compromise so instead they bought votes with OUR money, don't forget that when they are talking about an extra £1bn of funding, that's coming directly from my and your taxes.

Edited June 27, 2017 by sgtkate

[Carlinate 10]

Innocent civilians? so the IRA were innocent civilians:help:

 

Read the convicted I.R.A.murderers book The Informer, by Sean O' Callaghan you will find out( from the man who lead a unit of the I.R.A )who killed innocent civilians .

 

Before replying to a post it's usually a good idea to read and understand what was said.

 

The 'loyalists' deliberately targeted innocent Catholic civilians. They seldom went after the IRA because they were in the main a bunch of psychopaths who got off on killing easy victims.

 

Ask yourself a question, the state was combating the IRA, the state had thousands of personnel, unlimited access to weapons, intelligence, air support and an inexhaustible supply of replacement troops.

 

So what exactly were the 'loyalist' paramilitary doing?

 

If they were that concerned about the situation why not just join the RUC or the army?

 

Take a look at the British Army's assessment of the difference between the PIRA and 'loyalist' paramilitaries.

 

BBC report. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjsz5Dow9zUAhXoA8AKHYQcAxUQFgg7MAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%2F2%2Fhi%2Fuk_news%2Fnorthern_ireland%2F6276416.stm&usg=AFQjCNHmGkEhy3apMQaNoIuA0evYzWfNhA

[Cyclone 10]

Well, that was an expensive vanity project general election.

 

Well done Mrs May.

 

There's no money for the NHS though, or for tuition fee's, or for so many other things.

But a Billion for Northern Ireland, easy peasy, we can find that.

[hobinfoot 25]

Hung parliaments lead to deals being done. Any deal will have its critics but all parties would have to do a deal with others. They are not ideal but it's what we have ended up with.

[Lord Rex 10]

Quite a lot of the money is going towards improving the infrastructure in Northern Ireland, which hasn't had the same investment as the mainland over many years. Northern Ireland is hardly going to benefit from big projects on the UK mainland such as HS2. If parties such as the SNP and the Lib Dems had a little more foresight and not ruled out working with the Conservative Party before the election, then maybe they could have made agreements with them and negotiated for some of their aims to be carried out. There wouldn't have been the current fuss in 2015, if David Cameron had needed the support of the DUP after the election in that year.

 

Never mind, it seems to be the same sore losers over the EU referendum, who are complaining, because the Conservatives are still in power and they seem to ignore the fact, that they were the only party who won enough seats to form a Government. I guess the mind set of a sore loser is to make the candidate who came second in what was effectively a two horse race to be Prime Minister, the Prime Minister and carry out the option which came second in a choice out of two to decide if we stay or leave the EU.

[Carlinate 10]

Of course it's a good deal for Northern Ireland in financial terms. They've just got an extra £1bn of funding! If Sheffield was offered the same deal I'd expect our MPs to go for it too, but that's overly simplistic. And Gerry Adams actually said that it MAY be a good deal and well done to Arlene only if they now manage to get the executive back up and running. But the question shouldn't be about whether it's a good deal for NI or not, it's whether it's a good deal for the UK and clearly it isn't. It's now bred incredible resentment from Scotland and Wales understandably, it's undermined the Barnett formula, potentially threatened the Good Friday Agreement and cost the rest of the UK £1bn at a time when the NHS is under extreme pressure, police a struggling with counter-terrorism and we've got getting on for a hundred council/government owned tower blocks that need new cladding. It's an abysmal deal and one the Tories didn't need to make. They could have gone with a minority government and tried to seek agreements on individual bills but that would have forced them into looking beyond their own noses and trying to compromise so instead they bought votes with OUR money, don't forget that when they are talking about an extra £1bn of funding, that's coming directly from my and your taxes.

 

Totally agree.

 

It is a disgusting deal in both the fact that it threatens the GFA peace treaty and was completely unnecessary.

 

There is no way that the DUP would have voted against the Conservatives if there was a chance of bringing about another election.

 

Not only is Corbyn a bogyman to NI unionists but they are under intense pressure from Sinn Fein and could lose their slim majority over them in another election.

 

If this is an example of the nerve and negotiating skills we are reliant on in the Brexit talks then God help us.

[El Cid 220]

Seven MPs died in 2016, so the twelve majority with the DUP could be very slender within 18 months.

[gomgeg 10]

Quite a lot of the money is going towards improving the infrastructure in Northern Ireland, which hasn't had the same investment as the mainland over many years. Northern Ireland is hardly going to benefit from big projects on the UK mainland such as HS2. If parties such as the SNP and the Lib Dems had a little more foresight and not ruled out working with the Conservative Party before the election, then maybe they could have made agreements with them and negotiated for some of their aims to be carried out. There wouldn't have been the current fuss in 2015, if David Cameron had needed the support of the DUP after the election in that year.

 

Never mind, it seems to be the same sore losers over the EU referendum, who are complaining, because the Conservatives are still in power and they seem to ignore the fact, that they were the only party who won enough seats to form a Government. I guess the mind set of a sore loser is to make the candidate who came second in what was effectively a two horse race to be Prime Minister, the Prime Minister and carry out the option which came second in a choice out of two to decide if we stay or leave the EU.

It's interesting that the same sore losers in the referendum are quite prepared to throw up to a hundred billion quid at the EU in a so called divorce settlement then complain about a billion going to a part of the UK.

What the DUP have done is what any politician worth their salt would have done, that's what they were elected for, to represent their constituents and get the best deal.

It's only here in the socialist republic of South Yorkshire where our politicians didn't force the Labour governments to direct more spending here, but were just content to carry on supporting them whatever happened, and moaning about the pits closing under Thatcher

[LeMaquis 10]

Seven MPs died in 2016, so the twelve majority with the DUP could be very slender within 18 months.

 

I can only count 2 MPs who died in 2016 - Harry Harpham and Jo Cox.

 

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It's interesting that the same sore losers in the referendum are quite prepared to throw up to a hundred billion quid at the EU in a so called divorce settlement then complain about a billion going to a part of the UK.

 

Of course the sore losers never wanted a divorce in the first place. The DUP did and so hopefully their £1 billion will be diverted to the divorce bill.

[PRESLEY 1,229]

There's no money for the NHS though, or for tuition fee's, or for so many other things.

But a Billion for Northern Ireland, easy peasy, we can find that.

 

I can feel another Tax coming on, window tax oops we've had that, bedroom tax, oh we've had that anall, I know chimney tax and for them who havn'nt chimneys, drain pipes and gutters will do, see, easy peasy that's how a seasoned tory will find it.

Edited June 27, 2017 by PRESLEY

[Lord Rex 10]

I can only count 2 MPs who died in 2016 - Harry Harpham and Jo Cox.

 

I think the poster is including former/retired MPs in the figure. As far as I am aware they don't have by elections when a former MP dies. However, some deluded Corbyn supporters might be hoping they do if a retired Conservative MP sadly dies.

[gomgeg 10]

I can only count 2 MPs who died in 2016 - Harry Harpham and Jo Cox.

 

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Of course the sore losers never wanted a divorce in the first place. The DUP did and so hopefully their £1 billion will be diverted to the divorce bill.

Why pay a divorce bill at all? If the remoaners are so desperate to throw money at the EU I'm sure you can all have a whip round.