The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[hackey lad 3,980]

Eh?

 

I didn't come from a privileged background. I just studied extremely hard and it enabled me to have a very well paid career. We are not to blame for people who fail. There are opportunities for everyone to do this. No one deserves to have “anything” handed to them on a plate.

 

The bottom line is this, if you don’t work hard enough to get what you want, who is to blame?

 

Please tell us your background , then we can decide , if you are right or wrong

[ez8004 10]

Expect 60 hour working weeks, but at least you’ll see your kids more often - since they’ll be joining you down the coal mine

 

We volunteer to work 90hr weeks because we get a 275% more pay for doing it

[I1L2T3 10]

The cult thing is from a Spectator article a few months ago .Do you have any personal opinions without resorting to plagiarism?

 

It is my opinion. I don’t read the Spectator.

 

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Please tell us your background , then we can decide , if you are right or wrong

 

So you want to judge people to decide whether their lives should be destroyed because you are jealous of their success, after of course deciding whether they are privileged in some way having gained unfair advantage because of membership of the EU.

 

Twisted as hell!!

 

And you’re not behaving like you’re in a cult? Really?

 

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That's a HUGE statement to make. I can't disprove it, but it does appear rather unlikely.

 

Do you think the "worst off" people in the UK, living in the poorest households, were much more likely to support leaving the EU because they correctly recognised that our membership of this political and economic union exists to mainly benefit the UK's affluent, highly educated elite?

 

After 44 years of membership of this anti-democratic many tentacled monster, inequality and deprivation are increasingly being seen as a direct consequence of our membership. Even the remain side believe that their economic success and priviledged lifestyles are a result of being a part of the EU.

 

I certainly think that the EU has enriched the few - at the expense of the many. That is why it must be destroyed. Completely. Utterly. Forever.

 

More politics of envy and hate.

Edited November 1, 2017 by I1L2T3

[ez8004 10]

Please tell us your background , then we can decide , if you are right or wrong

 

I don’t require your approval. Who the hell do you think you are? Are you one of the have nots who like to blame others for your inadequacies or laziness for not getting what you think you deserve?

[tzijlstra 11]

Please tell us your background , then we can decide , if you are right or wrong

 

I’ll tell you my background, second in family (17 direct uncles and aunts) to finish a degree, rural working class, had to pay into household from my early teens. Worked my way up to get a doctorate and now look after students on a very similar journey. I earn a very decent living doing that.

 

Now tell me yours.

[ENG601PM 10]

I’ll tell you my background, second in family (17 direct uncles and aunts) to finish a degree, rural working class, had to pay into household from my early teens. Worked my way up to get a doctorate and now look after students on a very similar journey. I earn a very decent living doing that.

 

Now tell me yours.

 

Did you need a doctorate to be a housekeeper? It sounds like a life wasted and that you're paid too much for a job that you've taken away from somebody who wasn't able to apply themselves as academically as you.

[tzijlstra 11]

Did you need a doctorate to be a housekeeper? It sounds like a life wasted and that you're paid too much for a job that you've taken away from somebody who wasn't able to apply themselves as academically as you.

 

Wayhay, very funny.

 

Rather pathetic attempt wasn't it? Now, tell me what you do for a living and how you got there, and what about your background?

[sgtkate 10]

That's a HUGE statement to make. I can't disprove it, but it does appear rather unlikely.

 

Do you think the "worst off" people in the UK, living in the poorest households, were much more likely to support leaving the EU because they correctly recognised that our membership of this political and economic union exists to mainly benefit the UK's affluent, highly educated elite?

 

After 44 years of membership of this anti-democratic many tentacled monster, inequality and deprivation are increasingly being seen as a direct consequence of our membership. Even the remain side believe that their economic success and priviledged lifestyles are a result of being a part of the EU.

 

I certainly think that the EU has enriched the few - at the expense of the many. That is why it must be destroyed. Completely. Utterly. Forever.

 

If I believed that then I'd support you entirely, but I just don't. The EU has brought in no end of improvements to the average person from better working conditions, to massive growth of our economy providing more secure jobs. It has also brought some negatives, I don't fully support the total freedom of movement the EU allowed as I think it has perhaps brought more negatives to the EU than good, but it's borderline.

 

The damage to average people by economic collapse will be far worse than the damage to people like me or the rich elite. I want a fully federal Europe with heavy socialist ideals, but we aren't going to get that tomorrow and in the mean time we need to ensure people don't starve and that needs money and a decent, solid economy. Even socialists have to be realists.

[Cyclone 10]

Eh?

 

I didn't come from a privileged background. I just studied extremely hard and it enabled me to have a very well paid career. We are not to blame for people who fail. There are opportunities for everyone to do this. No one deserves to have “anything” handed to them on a plate.

 

The bottom line is this, if you don’t work hard enough to get what you want, who is to blame?

 

You should join the discussion about privilege if you think that working hard guarantees the same outcome for everyone.

The son of a middle class white family has to work considerably less hard than the daughter of a poor single black mother to achieve the same outcome in life.

 

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Did you need a doctorate to be a housekeeper? It sounds like a life wasted and that you're paid too much for a job that you've taken away from somebody who wasn't able to apply themselves as academically as you.

 

I'm very confused. How did you get "housekeeper" from "now look after students on a very similar journey."?

[ENG601PM 10]

I'm very confused. How did you get "housekeeper" from "now look after students on a very similar journey."?

 

Let's see. I read what he/she does as being more housekeeper than rocket scientist. Why you care is beyond me but it would explain your confusion.

[sgtkate 10]

Let's see. I read what he/she does as being more housekeeper than rocket scientist. Why you care is beyond me but it would explain your confusion.

 

You seem like a nice person.

[Cyclone 10]

Let's see. I read what he/she does as being more housekeeper than rocket scientist. Why you care is beyond me but it would explain your confusion.

 

I've been part of the discussion since before you joined the forum, so I 'care' for small values of care about what is being said.

 

Are you bad at reading, or good at deliberately misinterpreting?