The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[apelike 10]

Thankfully,that's not the EU I live in,and long may it continue to be that way,the Londoncentric UK and the deprived provinces that the have nots,the forgotten and the just about managing will soon have to replace EU regeneration money with UK money,let's see how much the UK governments are prepared to throw at these places,or tell the people who live there that they are a complete waste of time and money.

 

A lot of the regeneration money from the EU has been wasted on failed fanciful schemes, so there is no reason to assume that the money will need replacing. In fact in some cases the EU were wanting it returned.

[Calahonda 11]

Thankfully,that's not the EU I live in,and long may it continue to be that way,the Londoncentric UK and the deprived provinces that the have nots,the forgotten and the just about managing will soon have to replace EU regeneration money with UK money,let's see how much the UK governments are prepared to throw at these places,or tell the people who live there that they are a complete waste of time and money.

 

So you don’t live in the UK, then? However if I misunderstood your post, best brace yourself for March 2019.

[chalga 10]

A lot of the regeneration money from the EU has been wasted on failed fanciful schemes, so there is no reason to assume that the money will need replacing. In fact in some cases the EU were wanting it returned.

 

Well the UK can decide whether to continue wasting UK money on the same schemes,or tell the people and the areas that they aren't worth bothering about.

[RJRB 688]

To me the EU strives to achieve equality, which is an impossibility, as with individuals, there will always be a state that is more equal than others. There has to be failures and successes in order to achieve more, throwing money at failure in order to simulate success is a complete waste of time and money, as with the PIGS members.

 

We seem to agree with the aims of the EU,but whereas you think it’s a waste of time trying to achieve some equitable balance of wealth ,I think the opposite.

It might be a long and slow process and not one that we will see the fruits of in our lifetime.

On the other hand our parents and grandparents endured 2 major wars in Europe,so perhaps we have had some benefit over the last 70 years.

[melthebell 863]

A lot of the regeneration money from the EU has been wasted on failed fanciful schemes, so there is no reason to assume that the money will need replacing. In fact in some cases the EU were wanting it returned.

 

and MOST of these failed fanciful schemes are UK government / Council failed fanciful schemes, apart from having less EU money thrown at these failed fanciful how do you think leaving the EU will help?

[retep 68]

Thankfully,that's not the EU I live in,and long may it continue to be that way,the Londoncentric UK and the deprived provinces that the have nots,the forgotten and the just about managing will soon have to replace EU regeneration money with UK money,let's see how much the UK governments are prepared to throw at these places,or tell the people who live there that they are a complete waste of time and money.

 

The have nots outrank the haves, lets see how the haves do at election times, perhaps they will see sense.

[tzijlstra 11]

A lot of the regeneration money from the EU has been wasted on failed fanciful schemes, so there is no reason to assume that the money will need replacing. In fact in some cases the EU were wanting it returned.

 

Could you give us some examples of these failures?

 

On a sidenote, I am in Greece, speaking to a wide range of Greeks, all of whom blame their own government and feel the EU had no choice to act the way it did.

 

Just goes to show, again, that the ‘consternation on behalf of Greece’ that exists within the Labour party is built on la-di-la nonsense. In fact, here in the second city most people think things are now way better than before the crisis as the ever-present corruption and mismanagement has finally been cut down.

[catpus 10]

 

Don't go?

[gomgeg 10]

Very few conglomerates of this type last forever. If Turkey is ever allowed to join, they might as well use Eurovision Song Contest rules and invite Israel to join, which actually makes more sense than welcoming all of the ex Soviet satellite states, implosion is a real possibility, not in my lifetime, but I still think that Brexit will benefit the UK in the long run.

Juncker was saying not so long ago he wanted Albania. Macedonia and some other lame duck country to join.

But he was worried that Poland who are one of the biggest recipients of EU cash, will as their economy improves be eventually a net contributor and the part of the population who are euro sceptic will become even more so as they are paying for those countries.

 

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and MOST of these failed fanciful schemes are UK government / Council failed fanciful schemes, apart from having less EU money thrown at these failed fanciful how do you think leaving the EU will help?

The EU doesn't have any money, only what the members pay in. We pay in a lot and get a bit back.

You'll be OK when we leave. You might get one of the jobs when all the remoaners leave as they keep promising us, then you won't need to spend another 18 years on the dole.

[melthebell 863]

 

You'll be OK when we leave. You might get one of the jobs when all the remoaners leave as they keep promising us, then you won't need to spend another 18 years on the dole.

change the record you know nowt, just personal attack after personal attack

[gomgeg 10]

change the record you know nowt, just personal attack after personal attack

What's a personal attack about that? Just pointing out you might be able to get a job, or is it that what's the problem? So you won't be able to spend all day on here moaning about brexit.

[Car Boot 10]

Thankfully,that's not the EU I live in,and long may it continue to be that way,the Londoncentric UK and the deprived provinces that the have nots,the forgotten and the just about managing will soon have to replace EU regeneration money with UK money,let's see how much the UK governments are prepared to throw at these places,or tell the people who live there that they are a complete waste of time and money.

 

Let's all hope that this wasted money is not replaced.

 

A4e, a private contractor, received €60m in European Social Fund (ESF) funding from 2007 - 2010 alone, through programmes designed to promote economic and social cohesion such as workfare - forcing the unemployed to work for big business for just their benefits in return.

 

The company was one of the biggest corporate beneficiaries of the European Union’s structural funds programme, according to a joint investigation by the Financial Times and the non-profit Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

 

A4e consistently missed performance targets, but thanks to the EU it made its bosses very rich. At the expense of the poorest in society.

 

---------- Post added 26-03-2018 at 17:48 ----------

 

Could you give us some examples of these failures?

 

Perversely the ESF claims its aim is to ‘help millions of Europeans improve their lives by learning new skills and finding better jobs’. Yet A4e continues to fail to meet its targets to get people into work and to ruin lives via sanctions. The EU continues to fund it to do so. Not to be outdone, REED and Deloitte-owned Ingeus have their snouts in the trough as well: REED were recently awarded £4.9 million. ESF-funded Ingeus recently had a visit from an EU commissioner to highlight its ‘successes’, which is odd given that it too is failing to meet its minimum Work Programme targets.

 

http://www.boycottworkfare.org/workfare-eu/

 

The European Social Fund (ESF) is about snouts in the trough for big business.

 

Vote REMAIN and support the gravy train!

Edited March 26, 2018 by Car Boot