The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[tinfoilhat 11]

I can afford it. Then we make more, resulting in lower unemployment, cuz industries will need more employees. Less people coming into the uk from the EU, would mean more jobs for British people. A second referendum would have brought the same results. Because Most, well 52% of British people are fed up being raped by the EU.

 

What can we make cheaper, or better than the rest of the world that we domnt already do?!?!??!? We make weapons that people like and BAE are laying off staff hand over fist!

[Total Chaos 10]

What can we make cheaper, or better than the rest of the world that we domnt already do?!?!??!? We make weapons that people like and BAE are laying off staff hand over fist!

 

yeah, that's usually the case when the Tories get in power.

[Car Boot 10]

Not at the moment it can't.

 

That's defeatist nonsense.

 

Of course the world's fifth largest economy is capable of sustaining itself economically without the EU. The EU is a financially incompetent, anti-democratic bureacracy which only exists to serve the interests of the multi-nationals and it's own corrupt, pampered ruling elite.

 

The EU's economic mismanagement of the euro crisis alone means it is already in an advanced stage of disintegration, long before Brexit became a reality.

 

For example, since joining the Euro currency in 1999 Italy's economy has hardly grown. But it's public debts have and the EU must continue to use money transfers from its wealthier member states to prevent the coming financial earthquake that will eventually destroy the EU.

[Total Chaos 10]

We do buy alot of german cars but compared to other countries and we'll still buy them at an increased premium - if you can afford one. The EU will still trade but we will pay tariffs and as we have a trade deficite we'll lose out.

 

And why is it when ever I ask a brexiter what will happen I get a "We dont know" as though thats a sensible economic answer. Its like leaving my front door open and when someone suggests I might get burgled "well, you dont know you will".

 

Well we don't lol. There are too many people trying to wreck Brexit. If left, it may go smoothly and everyone lives happily ever after, or meddling might just ruin us. You might be wrong too. There is too much misinformation, sorry scaremongering. Plus I am fed up with paying for things in Turkey, whom are not even in the EU.

Edited November 4, 2017 by Total Chaos

[retep 68]

It's happening, agree'd. Whether it'll be anything like what people actually voted for, or the stupidest thing ever is entirely up for debate. Currently, the latter looks far more likely.

 

 

 

I didn't as it happens, but clearly you're confused about what democracy is, how does giving people more choice equal <removed> all over democracy? Oh.. it's doesn't, quite the opposite infact.

 

What you really mean is that if there was a second referendum when people actually had some idea of how much it's really going to cost them, you might lose!

 

So much for democracy eh

 

 

 

You do realise that if everyone bought British, there wouldn't be enough to go around, and thus the price would skyrocket as a result of that demand... no, of course you don't!

 

You do realise a lot of EU farmers would be very disappointed.

[tinfoilhat 11]

yeah, that's usually the case when the Tories get in power.

 

And who is power now? And who is power for, probably the next 5 years? And who could win the election after that? Thats right the tories. What do you think workers rights and wages are going to look like by then? Youve given them carte blanche to take them apart!

[Total Chaos 10]

And who is power now? And who is power for, probably the next 5 years? And who could win the election after that? Thats right the tories. What do you think workers rights and wages are going to look like by then? Youve given them carte blanche to take them apart!

 

Already happening my friend. Its called Zero hour contracts.

[Magilla 510]

I can afford it.

 

Ahh, that's OK then, 'cos at least half the population will have to go without.

 

Then we make more

 

Clearly, you are well informed on the matter:-

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/16/chris-graylings-claims-that-uk-can-grow-more-dismissed-as-tripe

 

resulting in lower unemployment

 

We already have record low unemployment.

 

cuz industries will need more employees.

 

Assuming they don't up sticks and leave, like the UK's car industry will on "no deal". In that case it's cheaper to make cars in Japan, and ship to Europe than via the UK's production facilities.

 

Investment in the UK is now negative, and the majority of exports for the last 6 months are people pulling their gold reserves out before it happens!

 

Less people coming into the uk from the EU, would mean more jobs for British people.

 

The majority of people coming into the UK never came from the EU to begin with. The countries we want to strike trade deals like India, Australia & Canada want free movement as part of those deals.

 

Less people from the EU doesn't mean less people! Just different ones.

 

With regard to jobs, there aren't enough British people to do them. The NHS being a perfect example of that.

[Total Chaos 10]

Ahh, that's OK then, 'cos at least half the population will have to go without.

 

 

 

Clearly, you are well informed on the matter:-

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/16/chris-graylings-claims-that-uk-can-grow-more-dismissed-as-tripe

 

 

 

We already have record low unemployment.

 

 

 

Assuming they don't up sticks and leave, like the UK's car industry will on "no deal". In that case it's cheaper to make cars in Japan, and ship to Europe than via the UK's production facilities.

 

Investment in the UK is now negative, and the majority of exports for the last 6 months are people pulling their gold reserves out before it happens!

 

 

 

The majority of people coming into the UK never came from the EU to begin with. The countries we want to strike trade deals like India, Australia & Canada want free movement as part of those deals.

 

Less people from the EU doesn't mean less people! Just different ones.

 

With regard to jobs, there aren't enough British people to do them. The NHS being a perfect example of that.

 

Then the ones already doing it, whatever nationality they are, can stay and continue doing the jobs. Just no more that want to come and hang around page hall all day, not contributing to the system, just taking from it. Your info comes from a controlled media source. If they said there was a zombie outbreak, would you believe it too. Half of our pharmaceuticals come from India anyway. Besides, Nibiru will destroy us all by 2018 anyway. So don't worry.

Edited November 4, 2017 by Total Chaos

[Car Boot 10]

Brexit has stengthened the EU, even the Anti-EU Italians are having second thoughts now they've seen what a shambles Brexit is

 

 

The EU strengthened by Brexit? Certainly not financially.

 

The Eurozone is an unstable shambles, in which some member states are condemned to permanent austerity and depression while debtor states are denied even basic democratic rights.

 

Without the UK's significant financial contribution it will only be a matter of time before this flimsy house of cards topples over. The free people's of Europe will one day soon look back on the EU project with nothing but hatred and bitterness...

[L00b 441]

The majority of people coming into the UK never came from the EU to begin with. The countries we want to strike trade deals like India, Australia & Canada want free movement as part of those deals.

 

Less people from the EU doesn't mean less people! Just different ones.

 

With regard to jobs, there aren't enough British people to do them. The NHS being a perfect example of that.

And as if on cue.

In the last year, there has been a dramatic rise in the number of EU nurses and midwives leaving the NHS.

 

Figures from the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC) show that workers are also joining the service in much reduced numbers – 90% less registrations than last year.

 

The numbers indicate a wider drop in the numbers of clinical staff as, for the first time, the NHS suffers from more people leaving the register than joining.

 

Total figures for nurses and midwives leaving show an increase of 4,500 from 2015/16, with a rise across all countries of registration but specifically Europe where the numbers rose by two thirds.

 

In comparison, the same number of staff are joining the service overall against last year, meaning there is a constant reduction in total numbers.

In simple terms, this means that more skilled immigration will be needed very shortly from countries outside of the EU and, as the figures (from fullfact.org, recently posted & linked) demonstrate, this costs the taxpayer more than the exact same skilled immigration from the EU. So not only do you not save £350m, but now you also need to increase the NHS budget.

 

Not to worry though. Last I heard from Leavers, democracy and sovereignty come equipped with baby-delivering and ar5e-wiping skills as standard

 

“It is extremely disappointing to see that increasing numbers of UK graduates and nurses and midwives from Europe are leaving the register. The dramatic drop in the numbers joining the register from the EU is particularly worrying.

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NMC’s chief executive and registrar, Jackie Smith, explained the findings: “It’s worrying that we are seeing a continuing rise in nurses and midwives leaving the register and our data is clear that this is being driven by both UK and EU registrants.

As an aside, that's indicative of the UK brain drain phenomenon continuing (and amplifying, in view of the latest figures) in the healthcare sector. No prizes for guessing where they're off to: Australia, New Zealand, Canada, 'rich' Middle East (Dubai, UAE, etc.) Edited November 4, 2017 by L00b

[Total Chaos 10]

The EU strengthened by Brexit? Certainly not financially.

 

The Eurozone is an unstable shambles, in which some member states are condemned to permanent austerity and depression while debtor states are denied even basic democratic rights.

 

Without the UK's significant financial contribution it will only be a matter of time before this flimsy house of cards topples over. The free people's of Europe will one day soon look back on the EU project with nothing but hatred and bitterness...

 

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