The Consequences of Brexit [part 4]

[Carlinate 10]

Sorry, I'm not getting your point. The whole of the Dunkirk thing was running away.

 

The point was that he was always fully aware of that fact and accepted it, but the commemoration displays and the whole 'Dunkirk spirit' thing was, and is, an attempt to spin the facts into some glorious endeavour.

 

The BEF of which he and his comrades were part of, together with their allies were totally defeated and driven off the continent by a vastly superior German army.

 

Yes, the rescue effort was tremendous, but it was mainly down to pure luck that so many survived.

 

The poor visibility weather prevented the Luftwaffe from 'shooting fish in a barrel'.

 

Had it not been for that and the Channel it would have been all over.

 

The Germans would have been eating Arbroath smokies and drinking malt whisky in Aberdeen by early July.

 

The point that I was trying to make is that the truth is better than fantasy.

 

Accepting the truth of a situation without any delusions helps to decide on what action to take.

 

Believing myths leads to hubris, and the belief that you are capable of things which are in fact beyond your ability.

 

Which can lead to a really nasty conclusion.

 

Hopefully sense will prevail and wishing and hoping based on no substance will be seen for what it is, delusion.

 

This is a great country in many ways but some people seem to still be living in the days of the Raj in their own minds!

[Cyclone 10]

This morning in the news

 

"Analysis from economic consultancy Oxera says cost to UK of new customs checks and ensuing delays could amount to more than £1bn a year"

 

Yeah, but £350m/week saved right... Leavers. Where's the £350m/week?

 

Britain will be hit by huge border delays, require vast lorry parks in the south-east, and suffer more than £1bn a year in economic damage, according to a stark economic analysis of the likely impact of customs checks after Brexit.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/29/uk-border-customs-chaos-hit-hard-brexit

[Magilla 510]

This morning in the news

 

"Analysis from economic consultancy Oxera says cost to UK of new customs checks and ensuing delays could amount to more than £1bn a year"

 

Indeed, according to the article: "This is an extremely conservative estimate"

[TheNugget 10]

This morning in the news

 

"Analysis from economic consultancy Oxera says cost to UK of new customs checks and ensuing delays could amount to more than £1bn a year"

 

Yeah, but £350m/week saved right... Leavers. Where's the £350m/week?

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/29/uk-border-customs-chaos-hit-hard-brexit

 

We haven't left yet, so at present it's still going to the EU.

[monkey104 10]

Is it over yet?

[tzijlstra 11]

We haven't left yet, so at present it's still going to the EU.

 

Hahaha funny how less than half that is going to the EU a week at the moment. Never mind anybody in government doing sums on what it is getting back for that. It's okay though, they finally commissioned a study on the true 'cost' of immigration.

[silentP 10]

Is it over yet?

 

Top right corner of your screen, logout, everything's hunky dory when you click it, try it, it's a great feeling

[I1L2T3 10]

For all you hard Brexit meffs and codgers who demanded tougher border controls, Christmas has come early:

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4751650/amp/British-families-suffer-Brussels-passport-checks.html

[silentP 10]

For all you hard Brexit meffs and codgers who demanded tougher border controls, Christmas has come early:

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4751650/amp/British-families-suffer-Brussels-passport-checks.html

 

Though according to the Guardian (recommended by some posters) this is more to do with security checks in light of recent attacks than anything else.

[chalga 10]

Though according to the Guardian (recommended by some posters) this is more to do with security checks in light of recent attacks than anything else.

 

It makes no difference,when the attacks happened,Brexiteers used them as a stick to beat the EU with for making it easy for them to cross borders,Brexiteers also want borders re instated,with of course,all the resulting checks.Now the EU are doing it,guess who the whingers are ,yep,the anti EU right wing media,moaning about delays to Brits.............get the UK out of the EU,ASAP.

[Cyclone 10]

Top right corner of your screen, logout, everything's hunky dory when you click it, try it, it's a great feeling

 

That fixes the economy?

[I1L2T3 10]

It makes no difference,when the attacks happened,Brexiteers used them as a stick to beat the EU with for making it easy for them to cross borders,Brexiteers also want borders re instated,with of course,all the resulting checks.Now the EU are doing it,guess who the whingers are ,yep,the anti EU right wing media,moaning about delays to Brits.............get the UK out of the EU,ASAP.

 

Yes, the Daily Mail no less

 

:hihi:

 

It's just angry at anything that inconveniences its hard Brexit-loving codger readership.