cgksheff   44 #37 Posted June 22, 2017 News right now. Three other blocks have combustible cladding. 600 blocks have similar cladding to Grenfell Tower.   Latest update: statement from No 10 should have said 600 towers have cladding. Not necessarily"similar". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #38 Posted June 22, 2017 Most likely the building regulations need updating to not allow the use of inflammable cladding.  I'm staggered that isn't already the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
biotechpete   10 #39 Posted June 23, 2017 I'm staggered that isn't already the case.  There seems, at least in some cases like Camden, to be a difference between the type of cladding/insulation specified and the type actually used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
John   10 #40 Posted June 23, 2017 High-rise buildings in London, Manchester, Plymouth, Salford, Sheffield and Halifax have been identified as having the problem cladding.  http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/23/cladding-similar-to-grenfell-tower-found-in-tower-blocks-in-six-uk-cities-6729577/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kal el   11 #41 Posted June 26, 2017 I had my tenants meeting last Tuesday. I asked the council rep when these safety checks were done and by whom. I was told that they are done by professional fire safety people, we had the fire service on the blocks testing the risers but nothing else. I also asked the rep why we don't have a proper pact test ie. testing all appliances rather than just the plug sockets and lights. I was told that it would take too long to test everything. after arguing for 5 minutes I was told to shut up and move on to the next issue. we have had our kitchens and bathrooms refurbished and a new electrical system put in. Due to the new system people are finding that they have faulty cookers, fridges. if the council had done proper pact tests we would have known about all these faulty appliances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #42 Posted June 26, 2017 I had my tenants meeting last Tuesday. I asked the council rep when these safety checks were done and by whom. I was told that they are done by professional fire safety people, we had the fire service on the blocks testing the risers but nothing else. I also asked the rep why we don't have a proper pact test ie. testing all appliances rather than just the plug sockets and lights. I was told that it would take too long to test everything. after arguing for 5 minutes I was told to shut up and move on to the next issue. we have had our kitchens and bathrooms refurbished and a new electrical system put in. Due to the new system people are finding that they have faulty cookers, fridges. if the council had done proper pact tests we would have known about all these faulty appliances.  Would it be the council's responsibility to PAT test tenant's own applicances though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #43 Posted June 26, 2017 I don't see why it would be, like any landlord the council aren't responsible for what the tenants do/bring into the property/etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Itrytoplease   10 #44 Posted June 26, 2017 67 high rise have been trsted to date, and 67 FAILED - 100% fail rate, and the council say ours are all OK ? we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon   #45 Posted June 26, 2017 67 high rise have been trsted to date, and 67 FAILED - 100% fail rate, and the council say ours are all OK ? we'll see.  That is probably because councils are sending their most worrying samples first.  What bothers me more is that we were told by Sajid Javid that the labs could test 100 samples a day, yet we've only managed 67 in roughly a week. Something doesn't add up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
barleycorn   10 #46 Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) That is probably because councils are sending their most worrying samples first. What bothers me more is that we were told by Sajid Javid that the labs could test 100 samples a day, yet we've only managed 67 in roughly a week. Something doesn't add up. You're assuming there would be only one sample per tower block... As a minimum I would expect a sample size of sqrt(N) + 1, so for a building with 1000 panels that would be 33 samples. Edited June 26, 2017 by barleycorn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #47 Posted June 26, 2017 That is probably because councils are sending their most worrying samples first. What bothers me more is that we were told by Sajid Javid that the labs could test 100 samples a day, yet we've only managed 67 in roughly a week. Something doesn't add up.  How can they identify "worrying" without performing a test? If they already KNOW that something is wrong then why has it taken Grenfell before something is being done? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
barleycorn   10 #48 Posted June 26, 2017 How can they identify "worrying" without performing a test? If they already KNOW that something is wrong then why has it taken Grenfell before something is being done? I would be more worried about a 100 storey clad high rise than a two storey clad block of flats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...