Jeffrey Shaw   83 #637 Posted July 5, 2017 The guys retired why not leave him retired. Because he was asked- not forced at gunpoint- to take the post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   206 #638 Posted July 6, 2017 i did read this morning that a couple of renovation firms were being investigated, one for fraud, but i cant find the story now lol  http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/fraud-squad-probe-into-grenfell-tower-fire-alarms-firm-a3579206.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #639 Posted July 6, 2017 http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/fraud-squad-probe-into-grenfell-tower-fire-alarms-firm-a3579206.html  Cheers fella, ah I thought it was a new enquiry but it says it's 3 years old Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nowt2pctoday   10 #640 Posted July 6, 2017 Most of the properties whats been offered have been turned down as they are not big enough.Surely they should be offered the same size at the worst.  not big enough??? where are they supposed to magic up these perfect properties from?? i reckon most are happy to stay in the hotels which has got to be better than the multi occupancy illegally sub let flats? until things are sorted out anything is better than nothing surely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ukdobby   221 #641 Posted July 6, 2017 not big enough??? where are they supposed to magic up these perfect properties from?? i reckon most are happy to stay in the hotels which has got to be better than the multi occupancy illegally sub let flats? until things are sorted out anything is better than nothing surely?  My post was tongue in cheek,I wouldn't be surprised if the 're housed people are in a lot better property than Grenfill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
horribleblob   202 #642 Posted July 6, 2017 My post was tongue in cheek,I wouldn't be surprised if the 're housed people are in a lot better property than Grenfill.  And if they were rehoused in better property, what would you think of that, ukdobby? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ukdobby   221 #643 Posted July 6, 2017 And if they were rehoused in better property, what would you think of that, ukdobby?  I'd think good on them they deserve it what they've been through and what would you think horrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hairyloon   10 #644 Posted July 6, 2017 In serious cases like this one, dont we usually read about arrests or the police seizing relevant documents? Has there been a statement from the investigation team, will it be a cover-up, like Hillsboro?  There is no way that the police were to blame for this one, so while there might be a cover up, it won't be like Hillsborough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nowt2pctoday   10 #645 Posted July 7, 2017 My post was tongue in cheek,I wouldn't be surprised if the 're housed people are in a lot better property than Grenfill.  mine was too and not having a go at your post! i am sure they are being housed in far better properties and hotels which as i said would be far more preferable to the overcrowded sub lets in grenfell, no wonder they are turning down council properties. my point was also how are the council expected to house them in the borough if they dont have suitable empty properties? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ukdobby   221 #646 Posted July 7, 2017 mine was too and not having a go at your post! i am sure they are being housed in far better properties and hotels which as i said would be far more preferable to the overcrowded sub lets in grenfell, no wonder they are turning down council properties. my point was also how are the council expected to house them in the borough if they dont have suitable empty properties?  They should be offered at least the same size but also shouldn't turn them down for something bigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 Â Â 10 #647 Posted July 7, 2017 They should be offered at least the same size but also shouldn't turn them down for something bigger. Â Just as importantly after the terror the residents have been through any new property should be somewhere they can feel safe and secure. Recovery from what happened will take a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sgtkate   10 #648 Posted July 7, 2017 mine was too and not having a go at your post! i am sure they are being housed in far better properties and hotels which as i said would be far more preferable to the overcrowded sub lets in grenfell, no wonder they are turning down council properties. my point was also how are the council expected to house them in the borough if they dont have suitable empty properties?  For a short time put them into private rental properties. Not ideal but likely cheaper than a hotel and a higher standard of accommodation for the families who can try to rebuild their lives. Just put yourself into their shoes for 5 mins, you've had your entire life go up in smoke, are likely suffering significant trauma as a result of the tragedy and seeing other people burning to death, guilt because you survived and are now living in a hostel or hotel a long distance from your work or kids schools. If it costs us (the taxpayer) a few more pounds to pick up the cost of private rentals so these people can start to rebuild then that's fine by me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...