top4718   838 #193 Posted October 25, 2017 Funny you never mentioned the other recent sex cases against women and children  If they become as frequently recurring and as current as these are I'm sure myself or someone will, this latest one in Rotherham seems to have gone under the radar a bit news wise, so it was worthwhile to update the thread.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5012485/Group-12-Asian-men-face-45-sex-offence-charges.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Puggie   10 #194 Posted October 25, 2017 You will have had lots of experience of asking a court for an order recommending (which is an important word) deportation then.  You're talking about a possible outcome after one's immigration status has been ascertained.  In this wonderful country of ours your immigration status does not form part of your identity.  When you are taken into custody and charged with an offence, the custody officer will ascertain your identity (legal name, DOB, address) in order to create a new custody record and conduct a search of the PNC using your details.  As part of that process you will be asked to state your nationality however this is nothing more than a self-declaration. It is at this point where an illegal immigrant will falsely declare themselves a UK citizen to prevent any further immigration checks being carried out.  So if you're in the UK illegally being charged with a non-immigration offence (ie rape of a minor), the last thing you want are additional immigration-related offences being levied against you with the prospect of deportation to your country of origin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mafya   246 #195 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Like deja vu here we go again, Rotherham in the (muted) headlines for another case, the usual line up and MO.  How is it muted when it's in the daily mail? You just wanted the opportunity to post about muslim sex offenders again but you are quiet when it's non Muslim sex offenders doing it. The police and criminal justice system are doing their job and we could do without your veiled hatred **** stirring. Edited October 25, 2017 by mafya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #196 Posted October 25, 2017 also its not "another case" in the link as tops made out, its the arrested perverts from the original investigation, who happen to now be in court. But since its an EDL wet dream.......  also talking of the EDL, isnt that Tommy Robinson in the pics with a mic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ANGELFIRE1 Â Â 10 #197 Posted October 25, 2017 Have to say that this is a crazy situation. I find it utterly baffling that there is no *simple* way to find out if someone is entitled to be here or not. All british citizens should be recorded on a central database somewhere and all those with visas. Anyone entering the country legally via border controls should also be added and then removed when they leave. If you are not on any of those lists then the onus must be on you to prove the right to remain here, which should be fairly simple for most people. Â Have I missed something obvious that would make this impossible? Â Â Much too sensible a post to be looked at and maybe acted on. Â Angel1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dimple   10 #198 Posted October 25, 2017 If they become as frequently recurring and as current as these are I'm sure myself or someone will, this latest one in Rotherham seems to have gone under the radar a bit news wise, so it was worthwhile to update the thread. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5012485/Group-12-Asian-men-face-45-sex-offence-charges.html  Its probably a culture issue. Like the Hollywood thing, Its starting to look like in Hollywood there is a culture of sexual abuse against young female and male actors. With muslims it seems to be that lots of the men like abusing young white females. They are not the only religion who like abusing though. Look what the catholic church have gotten up to and probably still do get up to. What ever the reason its all just plain sick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #199 Posted October 25, 2017 Its probably a culture issue. Like the Hollywood thing, Its starting to look like in Hollywood there is a culture of sexual abuse against young female and male actors. With muslims it seems to be that lots of the men like abusing young white females. They are not the only religion who like abusing though. Look what the catholic church have gotten up to and probably still do get up to. complete and utter bobbins  What ever the reason its all just plain sick. yup i agree, ALL sex crimes and sexual haressment is wrong, and sick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cressida   1,561 #200 Posted October 25, 2017 I agree with Mel that all sex crimes and sexual harassment is wrong, sick, even evil  but have any of these men been deported or would it be possible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #201 Posted October 25, 2017 I agree with Mel that all sex crimes and sexual harassment is wrong, sick, even evil but have any of these men been deported or would it be possible? not sure where they all come from tbh but if theyre british how do you deport somebody? being of a heritage does NOT make you a being of that country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dimple   10 #202 Posted October 25, 2017 I agree with Mel that all sex crimes and sexual harassment is wrong, sick, even evil but have any of these men been deported or would it be possible?  Ignore the Mails lazy reporting. They say the men are Asian but I believe they are of Pakistani heritage. They all probably hold UK passports but by the mail saying they are Asian it gives people the impression they are not British. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
cressida   1,561 #203 Posted October 25, 2017 not sure where they all come from tbh but if theyre british how do you deport somebody? being of a heritage does NOT make you a being of that country.  If we can't deport all of them then I hope they get long sentences because if they use the excuse that it's their culture (as one girl reported) then they are tarring all Muslims with the same brush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Puggie   10 #204 Posted October 25, 2017 but have any of these men been deported or would it be possible?  It's not going to happen. Our 40+ police forces do a miserable job of determining the immigration status of arrested criminals.  It's a broken system that nobody has the balls to fix. Read the Telegraph article below.  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/13/foreign-criminals-avoid-deportation-because-police-fail-to-carry/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...