Tents on Park Sq Roundabout

[Cyclone 10]

In post 86 you answered the question "can you answer the question". But lets move on.

Where's your evidence?

 

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Recap on this, and then tell me what the name for it is..........

 

'Can you answer the question'

'we're all waiting for you to do so.'

'warpig hasn't answered a single question he was asked.'

'we're still waiting for you to provide an answer.'

Go ahead, don't be shy, answer it.'

'you have continued to avoid doing so etc.'

'you refused to answer for multiple pages.'

 

Then this from the above author.........

 

'Why should I tell you ?' 'I don't think the rules of debate mean that I should explain to you.'

 

What did those doctors staying at Fawlty Towers say ...'There's enough material there for a psychiatric conference !'

 

Could you perhaps use the quote function?

I believe that when I said I don't have to explain, that was that I don't have to offer an explanation for why something is. I can prove that it IS, I can't be expected to explain WHY it is.

Do you see the difference?

I can prove that the sky is blue, but does that mean that I should have to explain WHY it's blue?

 

---------- Post added 23-02-2017 at 14:32 ----------

 

Looks like Cyclone just got found out and owned on this thread too. Anyway, are the tents still there ? Its a bit windy !

 

Not in the slightest.

[Penistone999 10]

I saw the advert too, I wonder if penny has fallen on hard times?

 

Nah, just posted it for a friend in Sheffield who dosnt use the Forum.

[Cyclone 10]

I did answer it with a simple 'Yes'. Didn't you see it?

Yes, directly after the question "can you answer the question?"...

 

So why now must I tell you?

You must 'tell me'?

It's your opinion, don't back it up with evidence if you don't want to.

Everyone can draw their own conclusions from your lack of evidence.

 

 

You couldn't even qualify your yourself at the time about why the numbers had increased, so you must have googled it afterwards in the hope you were correct?...

 

I couldn't explain why the numbers have increased (although I did in the end go and google it for you). Nor did I need to explain WHY they had increased.

The fact is that they have increased, I've provided evidence to show that they have increased.

You're saying they haven't, but you can't (or won't) provide any evidence for your statement.

[WarPig 75]

In post 86 you answered the question "can you answer the question".

 

No I didn't, I answered your original question, but you misunderstood it.

 

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You're saying they haven't, but you can't (or won't) provide any evidence for your statement.

 

Im saying I dispute the figures, and as you have said yourself, I don't need to explain why. You don't even need to know why. But is your so called 'need' to know related to you 'needing' to win all of your own arguments? You come across as a very 'needy' person. Why not become a little more open minded instead? It may even relax you.

[Cyclone 10]

Go ahead and provide some evidence then...

 

You can obviously dispute factual things, but if you want to be taken seriously you'll have to explain on what basis you're disputing them.

"I'd prefer it if they weren't true" isn't a basis, despite the example that President Trump keeps setting.

 

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No I didn't, I answered your original question, but you misunderstood it.

 

Well this should be easy to clear up. Let's look

 

Can you answer the question?

Yes....

When you quoted that specific question, and gave an answer, were we supposed to guess that you were actually answering a different question?

 

 

Anyway, lets summarise.

I've provided evidence that homeless rough sleeping numbers have increased. This evidence comes from government, charity and agencies who work with the homeless.

I even googled for you the reason why.

You 'dispute' this evidence, but can't say why it's wrong, you just think it is.

 

Is that a fair summary?

 

To be clear, that's known as making an assertion in debating, you assert that homeless numbers have not increased. To engage in debate like an adult you DO have to justify why you think that. In the same way that I justified why I think they have increased. You don't have to answer any related questions that require you to know more about the subject, such as "why haven't they increased?". Which is what you were demanding I do. I can prove that they have increased, I did. I can't explain why they've increased, nor did I ever claim to be able to do so.

Edited February 23, 2017 by Cyclone

[harvey19 541]

Seems to be a lot of clutching at straws these days, just an opinion, I can't prove it or provide backup.

[WarPig 75]

To engage in debate like an adult you DO have to justify why you think that. In the same way that I justified why I think they have increased. You don't have to answer any related questions that require you to know more about the subject, such as "why haven't they increased?". Which is what you were demanding I do. I can prove that they have increased, I did. I can't explain why they've increased, nor did I ever claim to be able to do so.

 

So I 'DO' have to justify what I think, do I? Under what law? Under what legislation? This goes against your earlier reply of..

 

Why should I tell you? You're not disputing that numbers have increased are you? Beyond that, I don't think the rules of debate mean that I need to explain to you why that is.

 

 

So if the rules of debate dont require someone to have to explain, why do you now say that I 'DO' need to explain?

 

You couldnt justify your claim until you went off to google it. Maybe you could now go off and google my claim for me? Be sure to let me know your results.

[Jerky 10]

So I 'DO' have to justify what I think, do I? Under what law? Under what legislation? This goes against your earlier reply of..

 

 

 

 

So if the rules of debate dont require someone to have to explain, why do you now say that I 'DO' need to explain?

 

You couldnt justify your claim until you went off to google it. Maybe you could now go off and google my claim for me? Be sure to let me know your results.

The results are in, 2-0 to Warpig

[WarPig 75]

The results are in, 2-0 to Warpig

 

And we haven't even started yet. This is just the qualifying round.

 

Anyway, i'm now off out into my garden to chop up and split some recently felled trees that I have acquired. My house isn't going to heat itself you know!

[Cyclone 10]

The results are in, 2-0 to Warpig

 

Only if you can't read or count.

 

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So I 'DO' have to justify what I think, do I? Under what law? Under what legislation? This goes against your earlier reply of..

 

 

 

 

So if the rules of debate dont require someone to have to explain, why do you now say that I 'DO' need to explain?

 

You couldnt justify your claim until you went off to google it. Maybe you could now go off and google my claim for me? Be sure to let me know your results.

 

Can you not understand the difference between

 

Backup assertion with evidence

Answer questions about the why of something

 

They are different things.

 

So far your score for basic English comprehension is zero I'm afraid.

 

---------- Post added 23-02-2017 at 16:23 ----------

 

You couldnt justify your claim until you went off to google it.

Well duh.

I couldn't provide evidence until I collected the evidence.

Maybe you could now go off and google my claim for me? Be sure to let me know your results.

We know the result, you're wrong. That's why you refuse to provide any evidence.

[Vaati 11]

As you can't seem to help bickering and insulting each other, this thread is now being closed.