taxman   12 #25 Posted February 8, 2017 Surely the reason is that you need a certain percentage of young aspirational people to use such places? And to get such people you need jobs for young aspirational people? Sheffield doesn't have such jobs and the council likes it that way. It wants people to be insular Labour voting drones. You'll see the same thing in Sunderland & Stoke. Moaning about the Tories but doing **** all to actually improve the lot of the people they are supposed to represent.  Basically as long as Sheffield stays in the vice like grip of the same miserable power hungry grey Labour ***** it will never move on and never become the thriving modern city that you & I want it to be.  Hardly the fault of Labour that HMRC will be shutting the Sheffield office and moving to Leeds in 2020. That's a hell of a lot less beer Sean at Been Central will be able to sell if I have to move there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jasd75   10 #26 Posted February 9, 2017 I thought it was grim and poorly laid out inside  Agreed, it was big enough but the arrangement of seating and 'dead' space around the bar (yes, I appreciate people need to access the bar) made it have a slightly uncomfortable feel about it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jemson   10 #27 Posted February 9, 2017 Sadly pubs seem to be dying left, right and centre Seems it's a dying industry. It's bizarre as you go to what I call regular pubs and it's a reasonable price - £3 a pint or thereabouts - but down town, some of the places I wouldn't go are charging £6 for a grim lager, yet they thrive. I don't know, perhaps it's lack of money, perhaps lack of interest - if I knew what was killing that type of bar, I could open one!  I think lack of money IS an issue too but the demand is there for places that `think outside the box` (e.g. Barstewards) or get a formula right (e.g. True North). Also places know quality and take a risk (eg. Beer Engine) can succeed. People don`t want the traditional model of Sky, Pool table and smoothflow or at least not in the volume that it previously existed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DnAuK   10 #28 Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) I think lack of money IS an issue too but the demand is there for places that `think outside the box` (e.g. Barstewards) or get a formula right (e.g. True North). Also places know quality and take a risk (eg. Beer Engine) can succeed. People don`t want the traditional model of Sky, Pool table and smoothflow or at least not in the volume that it previously existed.  I'd love to agree with you Jemmo, I really would. But the failure of places like The Hop, Dada, Anchorage etc, and the dumbing down of places like Sheffield tap (you only have to walk into Tapped Leeds to appreciate the vastly superior rage of beer they have to Sheffield) does suggest otherwise. Whether it is a money issue, I'm not so sure. I really do think it's a Sheffield mindset that people simply aren't happy paying £6 a pint for beer, even for quality. Hell I've paid that for a THIRD before! Thought not in Sheffield obviously... Edited February 9, 2017 by DnAuK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SpiderPete   10 #29 Posted February 9, 2017 I'd love to agree with you Jemmo, I really would. But the failure of places like The Hop, Dada, Anchorage etc, and the dumbing down of places like Sheffield tap (you only have to walk into Tapped Leeds to appreciate the vastly superior rage of beer they have to Sheffield) does suggest otherwise. Whether it is a money issue, I'm not so sure. I really do think it's a Sheffield mindset that people simply won't aren't happy paying £6 a pint for beer. Hell I've paid that for a THIRD before! Thought not in Sheffield obviously...  I am going to have to agree with you here about the price, I don't think Sheffield people will pay it or be ripped off (keg prices as a suggestion)... maybe it is lack of disposable income as well (sitting on the fence).  I don't think Hop advertised themselves well as a ale pub, maybe with it near Revolution/that pub across road doing cocktails people think they didn't do ales. I don't think the location was a good one.  I was out Tuesday/Wednesday round town and most pubs were Division St area and HoS area and was surprised how may of the pubs were empty, only full ones were those doing food (Bungs and Bear etc etc).  Or maybe we have so much choice in pubs with ales that they seem empty as everyone is in other pubs.  I don't think we will ever know the answer, but we all can speculate  To be fair, Pete, your average pub crawl covers half the city anyway! Us lesser mortals get left in gutters at various points around the route...  Yes they do tend to go on for miles and miles, although I did a interesting walk on Tuesday round town in pubs I wouldn't normally go in all the time and didn't go in pubs I would go in all the time, was interesting to see what ales they had ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
crookedspire   10 #30 Posted February 9, 2017 Has anybody thought that six pounds a pint is simply way too much regardless of what been sold. One here couldn't even afford three pounds a pint when I used to drink let alone six ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DnAuK   10 #31 Posted February 9, 2017 I am going to have to agree with you here about the price, I don't think Sheffield people will pay it or be ripped off (keg prices as a suggestion)... maybe it is lack of disposable income as well (sitting on the fence). I don't think Hop advertised themselves well as a ale pub, maybe with it near Revolution/that pub across road doing cocktails people think they didn't do ales. I don't think the location was a good one.  I was out Tuesday/Wednesday round town and most pubs were Division St area and HoS area and was surprised how may of the pubs were empty, only full ones were those doing food (Bungs and Bear etc etc).  Or maybe we have so much choice in pubs with ales that they seem empty as everyone is in other pubs.  I don't think we will ever know the answer, but we all can speculate    Yes they do tend to go on for miles and miles, although I did a interesting walk on Tuesday round town in pubs I wouldn't normally go in all the time and didn't go in pubs I would go in all the time, was interesting to see what ales they had ...  Well I'm going to revisit town centre tomorrow. Going to give Dev Cat another chance... plus Bath, Brewdog... Tho not sure where else. As I find them all a bit insipid now. But if you're around I will see you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SpiderPete   10 #32 Posted February 9, 2017 Well I'm going to revisit town centre tomorrow. Going to give Dev Cat another chance... plus Bath, Brewdog... Tho not sure where else. As I find them all a bit insipid now. But if you're around I will see you.  I am out tomorrow night and chances are probably see you are I am around that area as well.  I keep giving Dev Cat another chance but still cannot get used to the ale pumps scattered around the bar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DnAuK   10 #33 Posted February 9, 2017 I am out tomorrow night and chances are probably see you are I am around that area as well. I keep giving Dev Cat another chance but still cannot get used to the ale pumps scattered around the bar.  And the ability to keep the boards up to date as they positioned them OVER THE ****ING STAIRS!  Why no-one has DigitalPour in this area I'll never know. It's a wonderful thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SpiderPete   10 #34 Posted February 9, 2017 And the ability to keep the boards up to date as they positioned them OVER THE ****ING STAIRS! Why no-one has DigitalPour in this area I'll never know. It's a wonderful thing.  You would be the ideal person to do a interview with on "What do you think to Sheffield pubs" I would get the truth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DnAuK   10 #35 Posted February 9, 2017 You would be the ideal person to do a interview with on "What do you think to Sheffield pubs" I would get the truth  LOL. Cheers Pete.  What we really need is a collective of us to get together and open the kind of pub WE want. But then I suspect we would end up hanging up thick drapes and signs that say  'No...  Cocktail drinkers Carling Drinkers CAMRA Members etc.  And anyone that actually thinks Guinness is a stout can do one!'  So would probably be out of business in weeks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
slh73   32 #36 Posted February 9, 2017 LOL. Cheers Pete.  What we really need is a collective of us to get together and open the kind of pub WE want. But then I suspect we would end up hanging up thick drapes and signs that say  'No...  Cocktail drinkers Carling Drinkers CAMRA Members etc.  And anyone that actually thinks Guinness is a stout can do one!'  So would probably be out of business in weeks...  Id drink there, as would most of my mates. No **** lager, no waiting half an hour for a beer becase someones orderd 6 cocktails that takes ages to make, no camra members moaning that theres no twig flavoured dishwater at 2 quid a pint. Sell decent grub, ban tellys, and put decent music on a jukebox, and Im in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
