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Yes, but ultimately all of us want someone to come along and fix our issues. People like Trump come along and offer that quick fix and you only have to vote for him. It's utterly pathetic that people fall for it, but they do, by enough to get these people voted in. Perhaps if the left-wing parties started to promise snake oil we'd see more progress but they seem hellbent on being almost honest.

 

And here in lies the problem with your argument. The arrogance of it. Half of America voted for it. Are they all utterly pathetic?

 

I wouldn't have voted for him but for people to suggest that number of people have been conned is daft.

 

Deal with the issues not the hyperbole.

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All politicians manipulate the truth - but no-one tells as many blatant lies as frequently as Trump. Clinton wasn't an angel, but he didn't publicly abuse women about their looks, or make pathetically puerile references to women's menstrual cycle.

 

You have a short memory. Obama was a full blown dirty lying piece of garbage who promised lots but invaded more. He is disgusting. Say what you want about Trump, he has his faults but he wants what is best for the whole of America. Not just his elite friends.

 

The one saving grace of Trumps win is that Hitlary the rape apologist, women hating, Wall streets pet Clinton did not win. Had she won then we would all be gearing up for war with Russia.

You prefer that scenario do you?

 

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or mock disabled people, that by anyones standard (except trumps) is a red line

 

Dont listen to lame stream media. He did not mock a disabled person.

Anyway, he won. Get used to it.

America finally did something right.

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You have a short memory. Obama was a full blown dirty lying piece of garbage who promised lots but invaded more. He is disgusting. Say what you want about Trump, he has his faults but he wants what is best for the whole of America. Not just his elite friends.

 

The one saving grace of Trumps win is that Hitlary the rape apologist, women hating, Wall streets pet Clinton did not win. Had she won then we would all be gearing up for war with Russia.

You prefer that scenario do you?

 

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Dont listen to lame stream media. He did not mock a disabled person.

Anyway, he won. Get used to it.

America finally did something right.

"America finally did some thing right", man, they just made the biggest mistake in their history, worse than Pro

hibition, the Bay Of Pigs or the Vietnam War., much worse. Wait and see.

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You have a short memory. Obama was a full blown dirty lying piece of garbage who promised lots but invaded more. He is disgusting. Say what you want about Trump, he has his faults but he wants what is best for the whole of America. Not just his elite friends.

 

The one saving grace of Trumps win is that Hitlary the rape apologist, women hating, Wall streets pet Clinton did not win. Had she won then we would all be gearing up for war with Russia.

You prefer that scenario do you?

 

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Dont listen to lame stream media. He did not mock a disabled person.

Anyway, he won. Get used to it.

America finally did something right.

 

yes he did.....

what do you call this?

is that not mocking a disabled person..?

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yes he did.....

what do you call this?

is that not mocking a disabled person..?

 

No.

As much as I dislike the man, you are mistaken.

 

You will find that he has performed the same way several times.

He seems to think that it is a way to illustrate someone struggling for an answer.

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I see the TTIP protesters have gone very quiet .

 

Maybe they don't want to get hit with a £350,000 bill like that kipper hag from Rovvrem ?

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I see the TTIP protesters have gone very quiet .
For good reason: Trump binned it.

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And here in lies the problem with your argument. The arrogance of it. Half of America voted for it. Are they all utterly pathetic?

 

I wouldn't have voted for him but for people to suggest that number of people have been conned is daft.

 

Deal with the issues not the hyperbole.

 

But they have been conned. Not just by Trump but by the media over a number a years. We have all been conned, I'm no less affected by the media manipulation than you are, I am just aware of how easy we are to be led so I question things, even things I believe to be true.

 

And I didn't say that everyone who voted for Trump did so because they've been conned. Many voted for him because they will actually be better off, anyone with lots of money already that is.

 

Trump will NOT make the average working man better off in anyway. He will not raise wages above an expected average, he will not make peoples money go further, he will not improve their education, he will not improve their healthcare, he will not improve death rates caused by terrorists, he will not improve death rates caused by Americans with guns (both inside and outside of America) so exactly what were they voting for except propaganda and lies? So as I said, it's pathetic looking for a messiah to come and make things wonderful for you when the only person who can do that is you. But that's effort and we can't be doing with that can we?

 

The big problem that I see is that everyone votes for themselves in a selfish manner. What's wrong with that you say? Well, our circumstances change quite massively throughout our lives, so what seems like a brilliant set of policies now might seem awful if you were to lose your job. The way I try to vote, is to vote for the majority as almost by default I'll probably come out of it ok no matter how my circumstances change. You vote selfishly then chances are you'll end up screwed.

 

I *should* vote Tory. I'm better of financially under a Tory government in general. I have private healthcare which includes a private GP (who I never use) so shouldn't really care about the NHS. I have a ridiculously good pension scheme etc. Yet the Tories are only good for me while I have this job and lifestyle. The moment something happened to me and I lost my job or became unwell all those perks would disappear down the drain. If I'd supported the Tories in my 'good times' then there would be less to support me through the 'bad'.

 

So, yes perhaps pathetic was unfair, deluded is a better phrase. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best? I.e. vote for the party you believe will take the best care of you when everything has fallen apart and for me that isn't the Tories. It may be for you, and for some Americans they may honestly believe it's Trump, but then we've done full circle back to my propaganda point.

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No.

 

 

You will find that he has performed the same way several times.

He seems to think that it is a way to illustrate someone struggling for an answer.

 

I was thinking the same but for the life of me I can't find an instance where he's done that, maybe I didn't look well enough..

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You hear worse down the boozer every day of the week. Do you stay away from the ale house because you may hear some controversial opinions . ?

 

No I don't as it happens. You must drink at some really awful boozers full of misogynistic old gits.

Do you have daughters? Do they know you idolise a sex offender?

 

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No.

As much as I dislike the man, you are mistaken.

 

You will find that he has performed the same way several times.

He seems to think that it is a way to illustrate someone struggling for an answer.

 

Unless you can find evidence of him performing the same gesture in the manner you describe, I remain absolutely convinced his intention was to mock.

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Unless you can find evidence of him performing the same gesture in the manner you describe, I remain absolutely convinced his intention was to mock.

 

I have seen the evidence, but it is not my purpose in life to rid you of your convictions.

 

The man is a buffoon, but you continue to devalue your posts by choosing to believe what is thrust in front of you.

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