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Does anyone know anything of the group "English Democrats"..wasn't the mayor of Doncaster or Rotherham one of their lot?.. Their spokesman said today on TV that ".. Hitler was a socialist. And the Nazis were leftwing [not rightwing].

He sounded like some of the ukippers on here..

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I have theory that travel only broadens the mind if the traveler really gets a taste of where they are traveling. Staying in an all inclusive and never meeting anyone outside it will not broaden any ones mind just the opposite.

A false impression is created that the whole world speaks English and has the same values, nothing could be further from the truth.

 

I agree up to a point, but still think any travel is better than none. Even if the tourists stay in the all inclusive they still meet the staff. Most still go out for trips and stuff. And, most significantly, within the hotel they`ll be people from other countries who they`ll get chatting to.

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Mass immigration, Isis terrorist attacks, and you wonder why people are voting for the far right. Solve theses problems and you might stop the rise of the far right parties.

The leaders of the far right party tend to be charismatic and strong leaders also good at public speaking and saying what a lot of people are thinking but are to frightened to say because of political correctness.

 

They also tend to be morally sick individuals who promote rape, race hate and murder, so best to oppose them at every opportunity.

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Does anyone know anything of the group "English Democrats"..wasn't the mayor of Doncaster or Rotherham one of their lot?.. Their spokesman said today on TV that ".. Hitler was a socialist. And the Nazis were leftwing [not rightwing].

He sounded like some of the ukippers on here..

 

It's not an unreasonable point to make. A lot of Hitlers policies were very socialist, especially if you were ethnically German. A lot of them were not.

 

Authoritarian or fascist doesn't mean right wing - you could hardly call Stalin or Pol Pot right wing for example. It's far better to have left vs right as an economic axis and add another axis to make a diamond which shows liberalism vs authoritatianism

 

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It's not an unreasonable point to make. A lot of Hitlers policies were very socialist, especially if you were ethnically German. A lot of them were not.

 

Authoritarian or fascist doesn't mean right wing - you could hardly call Stalin or Pol Pot right wing for example. It's far better to have left vs right as an economic axis and add another axis to make a diamond which shows liberalism vs authoritatianism

 

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

 

I've been banging on about this for years. It's hopeless.

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It's not an unreasonable point to make. A lot of Hitlers policies were very socialist, especially if you were ethnically German. A lot of them were not.

 

Authoritarian or fascist doesn't mean right wing - you could hardly call Stalin or Pol Pot right wing for example. It's far better to have left vs right as an economic axis and add another axis to make a diamond which shows liberalism vs authoritatianism

 

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

oh dear.

I've been banging on about this for years. It's hopeless.
you do know that fascism is capitalist .

what is funny, is that the political view you mention derives from the likes of david Duke and kkk propaganda

Fascism is Capitalist and Classist. They used such terms as socialist or nationalist to hoodwink people..a classic method of the far right and fascists... such as nfukip bnp ed et al

Edited by WestTinsley

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Does anyone know anything of the group "English Democrats"..wasn't the mayor of Doncaster or Rotherham one of their lot?.. Their spokesman said today on TV that ".. Hitler was a socialist. And the Nazis were leftwing [not rightwing].

He sounded like some of the ukippers on here..

 

You are correct.

However this is what you get when a democratic country is driven into mass poverty. They look for someone to blame balance is lost and persecution begins. The pendulum can swing both ways and generally the harder it swings one way the more it will swing back the other. All you have to do is study history a bit to see what was happening before the swing started back

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=national+socialist+germany+1930s&tbm=isch&tbo.=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBkufE8efQAhVLJMAKHUF5BqsQsAQIQw

 

BBC - GCSE Bitesize - Weimar - crisis of 1923

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/crisis1923rev_print.shtml

Prices ran out of control - eg a loaf of bread, which cost 250 marks in January 1923 had risen to 200,000 million marks in November 1923. German's currency became worthless.

 

I was trying to upload a photo of a Hundredthousand Mark note that I have it is dated Februar 1923. But i think It has to go to Photobucket from what I can remember. WIN_20161209_201615_zpswavn8iy0.jpg

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag156/MargaritaMa2/WIN_20161209_201615_zpswavn8iy0.jpg

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like the mosley facists, it will only be stopped by stoping them in the streets.

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oh dear.

you do know that fascism is capitalist .

 

No it really isn't.

 

Facism is authoritarian one-party nationalism. It makes no requirements to the economic model - in fact it's approach to autarky advocates a planned mixed economy very far from any real form of true capitalism.

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The question "And what does that have to do with the price of fish?" has nothing to do with fish. I'ts a way of saying "does what you are asking have any relevance to the topic."

Nothing to do with Grimsby fish coming from Iceland, via Humberside airport then.

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Don`t get me wrong, I still think this is excellent advice. The slight problem being it`d work better for an "unfortunate" General Election result. That can be put right within 5 years. This Brexit perfect storm can`t, in fact (rather illogically) the Leavers are all saying that another vote under any circumstances would be "undemocratic, and could "lead to rioting in the streets". The latter is what Farage said wasn`t it ?

 

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I have a theory, I`d be genuinely interested to know how accurate it is. Supporters of populist nationalism and (indeed Brexit) probably haven`t done as much travelling (on the average) as those who take the opposite political view. What is it they say, "travel broadens the mind". I do wonder whether (paid for) travel for school kids should be made part of the curriculum. And I`m only half joking......

 

Not everyone wants to travel, I'm more than happy staying in this country and relaxing on a Greek/Spanish beach for a few weeks a year or maybe a few days in a European city. If being out of the EU makes that more expensive then that's a pill I'll gladly swallow and I'll make my relaxing beach holiday in the USA

 

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They also tend to be morally sick individuals who promote rape, race hate and murder, so best to oppose them at every opportunity.

 

It's hard to respond to you sometimes halibut...

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Mass immigration, Isis terrorist attacks, and you wonder why people are voting for the far right. Solve theses problems and you might stop the rise of the far right parties.

The leaders of the far right party tend to be charismatic and strong leaders also good at public speaking and saying what a lot of people are thinking but are to frightened to say because of political correctness.

 

Those " charismatic" leaders just say what people wanna hear, its called manipulation and its one of oldest trick in the book.

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