Gamston   10 #421 Posted November 12, 2016 [/b] Ain't that the truth. And they're prepared to lie through their teeth to achieve it.  And then people take out their frustration by treating important political decisions like Brexit and President of the US as simply a vote of no confidence in the government and politics in general. I voted to leave the EU, because I wanted the UK to leave the EU. I continue to have confidence in our current Government and I am grateful to them for giving me a vote in the EU referendum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Robin-H Â Â 11 #422 Posted November 12, 2016 Some might argue our system is worse. The Tories in 2015 got more votes than any other party but in total more people didn't vote Tory than did. Â Indeed, but then that is almost always the case. The last time a party won more than 50% of the vote was 1931. Even when Blair won his landslide in 1997, more people didn't vote for Blair than did vote for him. Â The fact that the US is really a two party state (the smaller parties getting such a small percentage) means that that is much easier for a candidate to get over 50% of the popular vote. Indeed, Obama did in 2012, 2008, and Bush did in 2004. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #423 Posted November 12, 2016 Indeed, but then that is almost always the case. The last time a party won more than 50% of the vote was 1931. Even when Blair won his landslide in 1997, more people didn't vote for Blair than did vote for him.  The fact that the US is really a two party state (the smaller parties getting such a small percentage) means that that is much easier for a candidate to get over 50% of the popular vote. Indeed, Obama did in 2012, 2008, and Bush did in 2004.  If memory serves, more people voted for major in 1992 than Blair in 97 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #424 Posted November 12, 2016 That's how long Clinton has to get out and escape being locked up. nah hes backtracked on that too aswell as obamacare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #425 Posted November 12, 2016 nah hes backtracked on that too aswell as obamacare  He'll backtrack some more yet. Some savvy political commentators said this would happen. Some of them are very handsome too;);) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Robin-H Â Â 11 #426 Posted November 12, 2016 If memory serves, more people voted for major in 1992 than Blair in 97 Â Indeed. Major won more votes than any other candidate in UK election history (before or since). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike   10 #427 Posted November 13, 2016 Apparently he no longer plans to repeal Obamacare. Just modify it. Didn't take long.  The wall will be a fence soon.  Haha, seems you trumped him..  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37969112 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
phil752   10 #428 Posted November 13, 2016 Haha, seems you trumped him.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37969112  With a budget of nearly Half a Billion Less than Clinton he had to make some attention grappling claims. Out of bad choices I do think they picked right, for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B Â Â 1,401 #429 Posted November 13, 2016 I think he'll find this being President lark a bit trickier than he thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest   #430 Posted November 13, 2016 Respect to John Voight. Well said that man. https://youtu.be/_IhG-Oe-7GY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   212 #431 Posted November 13, 2016 I think he'll find this being President lark a bit trickier than he thought.  He has said he might not serve the full term, maybe he will get out if the going gets tough? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
unbeliever   10 #432 Posted November 13, 2016 He has said he might not serve the full term, maybe he will get out if the going gets tough?  He said what?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...