horribleblob   #2617 Posted November 20 12 hours ago, Irene Swaine said: I don't understand why anyone who is actually homeless would get a dog. If they supposedly can't look after themselves, how could they look after an animal? If a dog was kept in an unfit home, the RSPCA would take it away. The pavement is an unfit home. Hmmm. Some rough sleepers have a dog for companionship and for protection. If the guy set alight in Birmingham last week had got a dog perhaps he wouldn't have been targeted. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/horror-homeless-man-set-fire-28095620?int_source=nba Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Organgrinder   #2618 Posted November 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, horribleblob said: Some rough sleepers have a dog for companionship and for protection. If the guy set alight in Birmingham last week had got a dog perhaps he wouldn't have been targeted. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/horror-homeless-man-set-fire-28095620?int_source=nba That's true,  and there is also the fact that some rough sleepers will have had the dog before they became homeless. If someone wants to hang on to the only true friend they have in the world, that's fine by me. Some dogs are far nicer than some people. Edited November 20 by Organgrinder 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Padders   #2619 Posted November 20 Just got back from ASDA, and the usual beggar who sits by the entrance isn't there... However he has left a note thanking everyone for their contributions over the last year. At the moment he's on a 3 week holiday in Tenerife, but will be back in time for Christmas. That's very nice of him, and it's saved me a couple of quid 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
briret   #2620 Posted November 20 Talking to an army veteran in Asda today. He was collecting for a veterans charity. .He told me that there were thirty thousand veterans on the streets. No doubt forum veterans will have plenty to say on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
HeHasRisen   #2621 Posted November 20 (edited) 4 minutes ago, briret said: Talking to an army veteran in Asda today. He was collecting for a veterans charity. .He told me that there were thirty thousand veterans on the streets. No doubt forum veterans will have plenty to say on that. Aye, hes likely talking cobblers. One of these facts wheeled out without any substance behind it whatsoever,  There is a difference between being "homeless" and being "on the streets", the former includes people using hostels, B&Bs etc. There arent even 30k people "on the streets" on any given night in the UK, let alone 30k veterans.  Certain news outlets love to run with the homeless veteran angle, it appeals to a certain subset of angry faced people.... Edited November 20 by HeHasRisen 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kidley   #2622 Posted November 20 1 minute ago, briret said: Talking to an army veteran in Asda today. He was collecting for a veterans charity. .He told me that there were thirty thousand veterans on the streets. No doubt forum veterans will have plenty to say on that. A lot of people who joined the armed forces had no homes when they joined up that's one of the reasons they joined Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
briret   #2623 Posted November 20 He had plenty of information and leaflets to back up his statements Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
HeHasRisen   #2624 Posted November 20 Just now, briret said: He had plenty of information and leaflets to back up his statements Link me to something then. I suspect he is getting confused with "homeless" and "on the streets" which are two very different things, and the number of the former is much higher than the number of the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Irene Swaine   #2625 Posted November 20 3 hours ago, Organgrinder said: Some dogs are far nicer than some people. The one that was running around The Moor attacking didn't seem nice at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Irene Swaine   #2626 Posted November 20 (edited) For avoidance of any doubt, no one HAS to sleep on the street, the Sally Army offer night shelters. https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/homelessness/night-shelters and there is a soup kitchen here https://sysurvivalguide.co.uk/directory-sy_survival/listing/sheffield-churches-soup-kitchen-churches-soup-wagon/ . Remember that MOST (virtually all) beggars are not homeless at all and are deceptive to gain money for drugs and gambling, some use conning the public as a career. A zero tolerance approach on begging needs to be stringently enforced.  Edited November 20 by Irene Swaine 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Padders   #2627 Posted November 20 2 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said: For avoidance of any doubt, no one HAS to sleep on the street, the Sally Army offer night shelters. https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/homelessness/night-shelters and there is a soup kitchen here https://sysurvivalguide.co.uk/directory-sy_survival/listing/sheffield-churches-soup-kitchen-churches-soup-wagon/ . Remember that MOST (virtually all) beggars are not homeless at all and are deceptive to gain money for drugs and gambling, some use conning the public as a career. A zero tolerance approach on begging needs to be stringently enforced.  Your right Irene. I've spent many nights sleeping in Privet hedges..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Irene Swaine   #2628 Posted November 20 Just now, Padders said: Your right Irene. I've spent many nights sleeping in Privet hedges..... After a few sherberts at Padders's Bar, no doubt. 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
