Anna B 1,365 #1993 Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) On 13/12/2019 at 09:42, alchresearch said: And you forget how horrible places like this were. People locked away, abused and ill treated, institutionalised. The writing was on the wall for places like this as far back as the 60s. I used to work at Middlewood in the early 70s, and yes they were not always nice places, but they were better than a shop doorway. Care in the Community was a great idea, and it was part of my job to prepare people who were institutionalised for life outside before they were moved into smaller group homes with a carer, (quite possibly with catmiss' mum...?) When it works, it works well, but this kind of care was/is expensive. As with all cuts to services, it wasn't long before problems arose and the level of criteria for this type of care was raised, so many people began to slip through the net. For the many there were eventually few placements available, and an inevitable downward spiral, until finally there was no care at all. As Ms Macbeth says, there are now many people with mental health issues living chaotic lives who just can't cope, especially when up against a complex, difficult system like Universal credit. Edited December 15, 2019 by Anna B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 577 #1994 Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Anna B said: I used to work at Middlewood in the early 70s, and yes they were not always nice places, but they were better than a shop doorway. Care in the Community was a great idea, and it was part of my job to prepare people who were institutionalised for life outside before they were moved into smaller group homes with a carer. When it works, it works well, but this kind of care was/is expensive. As with all cuts to services, it wasn't long before problems arose and the level of criteria for this type of care was raised, so many people began to slip through the net. For the many there were eventually few placements available, and a downward spiral, until finally there was no care at all. As Ms Macbeth says, there are now many people with mental health issues living chaotic lives who just can't cope, especially when up against a complex, difficult system like Universal credit. Remember it well - by the late 80's "Care In the Community" was giving somebody a carrier bag for their belongings and their bus fare to town. And yes - people with complex needs are being sanctioned at the drop of a hat. Grants to support providers have been slashed due to massive cuts to Local Government funding and it is the most vulnerable who are suffering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
catmiss 12 #1995 Posted December 18, 2019 How can you expect people struggling to survive day to day without support to conform to the statutory imposed regulations. Let’s hope Boris’ “People’s government” lives up to the name Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,365 #1996 Posted December 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, catmiss said: How can you expect people struggling to survive day to day without support to conform to the statutory imposed regulations. Let’s hope Boris’ “People’s government” lives up to the name I won't hold my breath. . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
catmiss 12 #1997 Posted December 19, 2019 Me neither! 23 hours ago, Anna B said: I won't hold my breath. . . Me neither! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ZaphodUK 0 #1998 Posted December 19, 2019 Unfortunately a lot of the people on the streets have other issues too such as drug and mental health issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,365 #1999 Posted December 19, 2019 15 hours ago, ZaphodUK said: Unfortunately a lot of the people on the streets have other issues too such as drug and mental health issues. Always have. (Not all of them of course.) But it doesn't explain the phenomenal rise in homelessness over the last few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut 12 #2000 Posted December 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Anna B said: Always have. (Not all of them of course.) But it doesn't explain the phenomenal rise in homelessness over the last few years. No. It's due to Tory policy, which is aimed at enriching the rich and screwing the poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,365 #2001 Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Halibut said: No. It's due to Tory policy, which is aimed at enriching the rich and screwing the poor. I couldn't agree more. Austerity still on the agenda yet working class people voted for the Tories in droves. I'd like a working class Tory voter to explain that, I really would. . . Edited December 20, 2019 by Anna B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
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catmiss 12 #2003 Posted December 20, 2019 The way Councils administer the Homelessness Act also plays a part, particularly the medical/vulnerable criteria. Before austerity SCC would be accept some people with substance misuse and/or mental health into these categories but this became less common as budgets shrank. As these, probably most vulnerable individuals, took the hostel places others fell by the wayside. Charitable accommodation, stripped of grants, could do less rehabilitation and could not contain antisocial behaviour-some of the long-standing homeless are banned from many provisions. Sheffield has only 2 male direct access hostels which are always full and, unlike many other large cities, no night shelter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Minimo 59 #2004 Posted December 21, 2019 It seems to me that there is a much deeper issue behind much of the increase in homelessness, particularly amongst the younger people. Why are there so many fractured families now? I am lucky to be a part of a very close extended family and it really pains me to hear about youngsters leaving or being forced out of the family circle. I think this is where there needs to be action (though I don't know what) to prevent family breakups. It can't all be laid at (any) government's door, people themselves must change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...