Cyclone   10 #1825 Posted February 25, 2019 Clean well dressed young men stopping people by standing in front of them doesn't sound like someone who can be "helped off the street" since they aren't "on the street" anyway.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kaytie   11 #1826 Posted February 25, 2019 13 hours ago, ECCOnoob said: Why bother?   "No thank you" works for me just as well. Because they don't respond, start a discussion/argument or swear being busy trying to figure out who/what the heck I am.  Polite refusal has in the past resulted in my being called some choice names I won't repeat here and/or pursued.  Not a pleasant experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #1827 Posted February 26, 2019 Sleeper buses starting in sheffield to help the homeless https://www.shefnews.co.uk/2019/02/21/double-decker-bus-for-homeless-in-sheffield/ yay or nay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodmally   10 #1828 Posted February 27, 2019 15 hours ago, melthebell said: Sleeper buses starting in sheffield to help the homeless https://www.shefnews.co.uk/2019/02/21/double-decker-bus-for-homeless-in-sheffield/ yay or nay? Sadly again I dont think it will work. As it has been stated on here many times. Many people do not engage with services. Anthony Cunningham tried his tent city project and the council shut it down because it was turning into a drugs den. I know first hand as while it was up there was a queue of people just off my street waiting for their fix. Anthony himself admitted that he set up a tent for them to get their injections. Anthony is now trying to get sleeper containers set up to do the same. However I fear that again will fall in the same problem. Yes there is lack of accommodation but also lack of engagement from the homeless and rootless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #1829 Posted February 27, 2019 What does "lack of engagement" mean? Do you mean that they won't give up drink and drugs in exchange for somewhere to sleep? Or something else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodmally   10 #1830 Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Cyclone said: What does "lack of engagement" mean? Do you mean that they won't give up drink and drugs in exchange for somewhere to sleep? Or something else? Here is an example of lack of engagement with services.  http://www.helpushelp.uk/blog/our-outreach-teams-out-on-the-streets-daily Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #1831 Posted February 27, 2019 No mention of why support is refused, whether it's difficult to access, comes with conditions or that they just distrust the authorities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodmally   10 #1832 Posted February 28, 2019 13 hours ago, Cyclone said: No mention of why support is refused, whether it's difficult to access, comes with conditions or that they just distrust the authorities. Why should that matter? If they distrust authorities well tough! They need to get over it and accept help otherwise stay on the streets. I have little time for the "evil authorities out to get them attitude". If the support comes with conditions then you accept those conditions. You dont bite the hand that feeds you. I wish they would stop using excuses as to why they are still on the streets and take the help thats offered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #1833 Posted February 28, 2019 You sound like you're angry at these people for some reason.  You wish that they'd do as you want them to do. Why not stop worrying about what you want and think about what they want for a change? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   306 #1834 Posted February 28, 2019 15 hours ago, Cyclone said: No mention of why support is refused, whether it's difficult to access, comes with conditions or that they just distrust the authorities. The second and third point are most common, especially the second. For example alot of shelters have a no drink, no drugs policy. Fair enough you'd think, but when you're dealing with hardcore addicts they simply can't (or won't) give it up so easily.  This issue in our was just in the news today acutally: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-47374336  Quote Some homeless people in Sheffield have told a council they are better off begging on the streets than being placed in accommodation. The Housing First scheme works with single homeless people to provide housing and other support. Sheffield City Council said funding would be pulled because of a lack of suitable single accommodation and to put the cat among the pigeons  Quote One man told of earning up to £300 a day from begging, and said many people immediately spent the money on drugs.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #1835 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) I don't think it's fair enough to link assistance with giving up self medication.  Some homeless people in Sheffield have told a council they are better off begging on the streets than being placed in accommodation. Does this even make sense? Having somewhere to sleep doesn't stop someone begging during the day. Edited February 28, 2019 by Cyclone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
fill   10 #1836 Posted March 4, 2019 On 05/01/2019 at 19:15, feargal said: Brian, you could contact the Archer Project behind the cathedral, or St Wilfreds on Queens Road. though if you have the time and inclination you might when / if talking to some of the homeless discover why they do not all want to be involved with the archer project. in which case again if you have the time you might want to seek out some of the homeless and give them your unwanted items directly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...