steved32 Â Â 55 #721 Posted May 22, 2018 Personally it's not the beggars in the city centre who irritate me so much as the uniformed lanyard, leafletting army who accost ypu every few steps as you walk down the Moor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
birobasher   27 #722 Posted May 22, 2018 Judging by all the comments on this thread, I would say 90% are professional beggars.  Comments aren't evidence, just opinion.  ---------- Post added 22-05-2018 at 06:46 ----------  I heard that professional beggars come to Sheffield in groups to beg. I just feel so sorry for those with dogs as the dogs look so sad and unhappy.  'I hear that...' isn't evidence of anything real.  NB people with dogs mostly likely had to look after them when they became homeless. What would you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   214 #723 Posted May 22, 2018 Comments aren't evidence, just opinion.  Beggars part of organised gangs earn up to £200 a day in Sheffield city centre Some street beggars in Sheffield city centre are part of organised gangs duping people into believing they are homeless.  https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/beggars-part-of-organised-gangs-earn-up-to-200-a-day-in-sheffield-city-centre-1-8832158 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
birobasher   27 #724 Posted May 22, 2018 Beggars part of organised gangs earn up to £200 a day in Sheffield city centre Some street beggars in Sheffield city centre are part of organised gangs duping people into believing they are homeless.  https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/beggars-part-of-organised-gangs-earn-up-to-200-a-day-in-sheffield-city-centre-1-8832158  'Some', not all, not a majority. One paper article (with an agenda) isn't proof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Padders   2,866 #725 Posted May 22, 2018 Beggars part of organised gangs earn up to £200 a day in Sheffield city centre Some street beggars in Sheffield city centre are part of organised gangs duping people into believing they are homeless.  https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/beggars-part-of-organised-gangs-earn-up-to-200-a-day-in-sheffield-city-centre-1-8832158  5 day week, £1000 per week, I honestly don"t believe it. if its true who can blame them, in fact if I thought it was true, I would seriously give it a go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
monkey104   10 #726 Posted May 22, 2018 I might put my gardening clothes on, grab a sleeping bag and take the dog down town if it’s that profitable! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
paula4sheff   10 #727 Posted May 22, 2018 'Some', not all, not a majority. One paper article (with an agenda) isn't proof.  it is going on, yes. Obviously I'm just one person posting on a board, but I can assure you that professional gangs are coming in to beg - and that exploitation of vulnerable people forms part of that process.  It's an issue that those working in that area are trying to address and combat, constantly.  I think people would be surprised how much money is generated by begging - it can be very lucrative.  Again - just please don't give beggars money. Donate to charity or buy a Big Issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
birobasher   27 #728 Posted May 22, 2018 There is one of the Big Issue sellers that has been selling for many, many years, and if fact he brags about the fact it's just a means to pay for his beer money,  If you think he is abusing his position, that's against seller contract. Report him to the Big Issue office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alsatian   10 #729 Posted May 22, 2018 'Some', not all, not a majority. One paper article (with an agenda) isn't proof.  How do you know it's not a majority? Do you know them all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DnAuK Â Â 10 #730 Posted May 22, 2018 'Some', not all, not a majority. One paper article (with an agenda) isn't proof. Â I don;t know if it's just 'some' or not. NBut it's certainly not 'all'. I tend to get into Sheffield about 7am on a morning as I miss the rush hour and get a decent parking spot. I have noticed, on average, around half a dozen sleeping rough in doorways every morning on my reasonably short walk from the car to the office. Â I fail to believe that even professional beggars get up and into town at this time, just to set up and catch a few more zzzz's before their day of begging starts. So I'm pretty sure these are genuine homeless, for whatever reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
paula4sheff   10 #731 Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) I don;t know if it's just 'some' or not. NBut it's certainly not 'all'. I tend to get into Sheffield about 7am on a morning as I miss the rush hour and get a decent parking spot. I have noticed, on average, around half a dozen sleeping rough in doorways every morning on my reasonably short walk from the car to the office.  I fail to believe that even professional beggars get up and into town at this time, just to set up and catch a few more zzzz's before their day of begging starts. So I'm pretty sure these are genuine homeless, for whatever reason.  There are many who do just as you suggest - have accommodation but choose not to sleep in it in order to take advantage of people going to work, or make an early start. The rough sleeper figures are always between 12-20, which across the city the size of Sheffield is tiny.When you also factor in that of that 12-20 a lot of them will have refused accommodation, and made the choice to sleep on the street, there really is no problem with homelessness in Sheffield of any scale.  There IS a problem though with drink and drug abuse, and exploitation of the vulnerable. Those three issues are very different matters - and unfortunately giving to begging is encouraging those issues, rather than helping them be combated. Edited May 22, 2018 by paula4sheff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   214 #732 Posted May 22, 2018 'Some', not all, not a majority. One paper article (with an agenda) isn't proof.  Its enough to back up pattricia's post which you seemed to jump on.  Can you prove it isn't happening or true or are you just the forum's beggar apologist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...