Guest makapaka   #625 Posted November 4, 2017 Yeh, but the dogs aren’t alcoholics or drug users !  Maybe they would be if they had opposable thumbs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kidley   48 #626 Posted November 4, 2017 There is definitely a homeless issue in Sheffield, and although a lot of the "beggars" are scam artists, there are also a lot of people who genuinely need and want help. Just difficult to tell who's who sometimes  have a read of the link, homeless and people sleeping rough are two different things, according to the last count there are only 15 rough sleepers in Sheffield and i think i am correct in saying, they all have had a "house" at some time or other and all have been offered accommodation while they have been sleeping rough.  http://www.sheffieldnewsroom.co.uk/rough-sleeping-providing-the-facts/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #627 Posted November 5, 2017 have a read of the link, homeless and people sleeping rough are two different things, according to the last count there are only 15 rough sleepers in Sheffield and i think i am correct in saying, they all have had a "house" at some time or other and all have been offered accommodation while they have been sleeping rough.  http://www.sheffieldnewsroom.co.uk/rough-sleeping-providing-the-facts/  It's a council link. No reason whatsoever to think that that count is accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kidley   48 #628 Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) It's a council link. No reason whatsoever to think that that count is accurate.  what makes you say its not accurate, it was done over a matter of days if not weeks, what are your reasons for saying it is not accurate, maybe you are privy to some other information?  C+P These people were counted by outreach teams from the city’s rough sleeper service who are in the city centre at night and early morning to find people and offer support.  Edited November 5, 2017 by kidley added link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Martin C   82 #629 Posted November 6, 2017 what makes you say its not accurate, it was done over a matter of days if not weeks, what are your reasons for saying it is not accurate, maybe you are privy to some other information? C+P These people were counted by outreach teams from the city’s rough sleeper service who are in the city centre at night and early morning to find people and offer support.   I too would welcome enlightenment as to your statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
parkydave   10 #630 Posted November 6, 2017 Sheffield council should take a lead , that all can see , in this problem , An advertising campaign explaining to us all what is the best way to help and to explain to us what is not. We went to town this last Sunday and the moor was clear of these scammers must have moved to another area to do their work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kidley   48 #631 Posted November 6, 2017 I too would welcome enlightenment as to your statement.  What more enlightenment would you like that are not in my two links, i would welcome your suggestion's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eccy Beach   11 #632 Posted November 6, 2017 It's a council link. No reason whatsoever to think that that count is accurate.  The process used to be ridiculous, for example it took place at 6pm at night and only counted people laid on floor not those carrying cardboard around (who were blatantly going to be rough sleeping at some point that night), however as someone else has said it's done a bit better now I think.  I can tell you from experience having gone out at 6am every Thursday for 4 years with the City Centre SNA - they have a very accurate spreadsheet of how many people are/have slept out.  After last nights frost, you'll know how many are genuinely homeless this morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SkylinePhoto   10 #633 Posted November 6, 2017 It's a council link. No reason whatsoever to think that that count is accurate.  They have said that in December 2016 there were 16 people sleeping on the streets.  So this figure has either increased by about 100 in a year or there are about 100 people who are not homeless who are taking advantage of people's generosity to buy drugs. I think its the latter.  Like i have said in a previous post. The cold weather will weed out the genuine homeless and the junkies.  Junkies wont sit in the rain and snow, they will just steal from shops and peoples homes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Geo-atkinson   10 #634 Posted November 6, 2017 what makes you say its not accurate, it was done over a matter of days if not weeks, what are your reasons for saying it is not accurate, maybe you are privy to some other information? C+P These people were counted by outreach teams from the city’s rough sleeper service who are in the city centre at night and early morning to find people and offer support.   That's true I've seen them, and if you get in to the city centre early-sparrows you will see them too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
monkey104 Â Â 10 #635 Posted November 6, 2017 I had an hardly used artic sleeping bag and waterproof Bivvi bag that I wanted to give to some one who was genuinely homeless. To my mind the only way to make sure that it went to someone truly homeless was to find someone sleeping out in the early hours. Fortunately my work finds me out and about round Sheffield at all hours but I had a job actually finding someone that sleeps rough on a regular basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Padders   2,866 #636 Posted November 6, 2017 I had an hardly used artic sleeping bag and waterproof Bivvi bag that I wanted to give to some one who was genuinely homeless. To my mind the only way to make sure that it went to someone truly homeless was to find someone sleeping out in the early hours. Fortunately my work finds me out and about round Sheffield at all hours but I had a job actually finding someone that sleeps rough on a regular basis.  Nice thought monkey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...