Justin Smith Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) I have always regarded myself as reasonably patriotic, though I`ve also tended to think of myself as a Sheffielder or Yorkshireman just as much as an Englishman, and, in turn, felt European just as much as I felt British (except when watching a sporting event ! ). But, since the Referendum result with a majority (albeit a narrow majority) voting to leave the EU, I have to say I feel less patriotic than I did before. I feel less of a connection with my country and that my views basically don`t count for anything. I`d have thought those who voted for Brexit may well feel more patriotic, but I could be wrong. What I`ve found most surprising post Referendum is the fact that the those in favour of leaving the EU aren`t the only ones with strong feelings on the issue. That never came out before the poll, but it is doing so now. Similarly I`d expect a majority to vote on here* to say they feel more patriotic, but again, I could be wrong. The fallout from Brexit is indeed more serious and reaching corners that weren`t really foreseen, all for something most people weren`t that bothered about only 15 months before the Referendum. Less than 15% of voters put Europe in their top three of concerns ! * Particularly as the pre Referendum polling intentions vote on SF had a stronger majority for Leave than the actual national poll result. It was even further in error relative to the Sheffield result How the UK was fractured (demographically) in the referendum. Edited January 6, 2017 by Justin Smith
I1L2T3 Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 I feel ashamed that the image we're projecting to the world is of right wing narrow mindedness, and of being a country where hate crime is allowed to grow. We're better than this. It doesn't make me proud.
Justin Smith Posted September 17, 2016 Author Posted September 17, 2016 I feel ashamed that the image we're projecting to the world is of right wing narrow mindedness, and of being a country where hate crime is allowed to grow. We're better than this. It doesn't make me proud. I feel similarly. Which is why I feel less patriotic, I`d assume you feel the same ?
melthebell Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 I feel ashamed that the image we're projecting to the world is of right wing narrow mindedness, and of being a country where hate crime is allowed to grow. We're better than this. It doesn't make me proud. indeed, what a shallow, hateful, narrow minded piece of slime we have become
I1L2T3 Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 I feel similarly. Which is why I feel less patriotic, I`d assume you feel the same ? I do feel less patriotic yes.
Gamston Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 I feel ashamed that the image we're projecting to the world is of right wing narrow mindedness, and of being a country where hate crime is allowed to grow. We're better than this. It doesn't make me proud. Absolute nonsense. The image we are projecting to the rest of the World is we are taking back our soveriegnty. Recent elections in Germany suggest their citizens are are also unhappy with the EU. Other EU members would also vote to leave, if their citizens were given the choice.
tinfoilhat Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Absolute nonsense. The image we are projecting to the rest of the World is we are taking back our soveriegnty. Recent elections in Germany suggest their citizens are are also unhappy with the EU. Other EU members would also vote to leave, if their citizens were given the choice. It suggests to me that they're unhappy with Mrs merkel.
ricgem2002 Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 It suggests to me that they're unhappy with Mrs merkel. or with the policies that mrs merkel has to follow by being in the eu
Fogey Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 Absolute nonsense. The image we are projecting to the rest of the World is we are taking back our soveriegnty. Recent elections in Germany suggest their citizens are are also unhappy with the EU. Other EU members would also vote to leave, if their citizens were given the choice. The image we have presented to the rest of the world is that a slight majority of us dislike and resent foreigners, are unlikely to properly think and reason carefully on major globally impacting decisions even when presented with the truth, and are easily manipulated by slimy politicians and right wing media who encourage us to blame easy targets for anything remotely wrong in our lives.
Penistone999 Posted September 17, 2016 Posted September 17, 2016 indeed, what a shallow, hateful, narrow minded piece of slime we have become What , because we voted to leave a self serving dictatorship in Brussels ?
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