The end of the Labour party

[banjodeano 31]

Shouldnt the title of this thread now be called....is this the end of the Tory party?

[alchresearch 214]

A return to the infighting again?

 

Jeremy Corbyn sacks three frontbenchers over single market vote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40451301

 

Staying in the single market is not Labour policy and Mr Corbyn had ordered his MPs to abstain - but 50 rebelled.

 

His deputy Tom Watson said he was disappointed with Mr Umunna for trying to "divide" Labour MPs with the vote.

[Guest sibon]

A return to the infighting again?

 

 

Labour MPs were probably bored of watching the Tories out-chaos them.

 

This stuff is inevitable on such an emotive topic. Corbyn had no choice but to sack them though. They will be back on the front bench by Christmas, quite possible in office too.

[I1L2T3 10]

Don't think Corbyn had a choice there.

 

Nobody is asking the obvious questions though: why wouldn't Corbyn want us in the single market?

[Hairyloon 10]

Nobody is asking the obvious questions though: why wouldn't Corbyn want us in the single market?

 

The Single Market is a neo-liberal construct and Corbyn has dreams of a socialist utopia.

 

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Don't think Corbyn had a choice there.

 

There is always a choice. The right choice here is to allow a free vote on these things.

Edited June 30, 2017 by Hairyloon

[Guest sibon]

 

There is always a choice. The right choice here is to allow a free vote on these things.

 

Not on manifesto stuff. Not from the shadow cabinet.

[Hairyloon 10]

Not on manifesto stuff. Not from the shadow cabinet.

 

I'm pretty sure the Manifesto said it would focus on jobs. You'll have to remind me exactly what it said about the Single Market.

[L00b 441]

Don't think Corbyn had a choice there.

 

Nobody is asking the obvious questions though: why wouldn't Corbyn want us in the single market?

Erm...

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EDIT: in the meantime, some more food for thought. Nail on head, tbh.

[I1L2T3 10]

Erm...

 

Indeed.

 

The EU rules that apparently stifle trade with the rest of the world, e.g. With the focus on trade within the single market also promote competition within that market, and one of the areas of competition is for providing public services. Renationalising key industries would be much easier outside the single market.

 

I did warn about this pre-referendum but was shot down because an evil and rabid leftie could never get into power and do nasty terrible things like re-nationalisation could they....

 

The de facto Brexit leaders are looking for such a specific set of outcomes that they could never comprehend that a whole mass of unintended consequences are on the horizon.

 

If it wasn't so serious I'd be splitting my sides laughing

[Vaati 11]

Back on topic please. This thread isn't about Brexit.

[Ridgewalk 96]

I think we can safely say it's not the end of the Labour Party, membership well over 500,000, 40% share of the vote at the Election, Labour leader more popular than PM. Sixty seven percent of young voters voted Labour.

 

Probably the end of UKIP and well, Lib Dems

[Jeffrey Shaw 90]

"We" cannot say anything definitive. Much of the Labour vote increase seems to have come from enthusing under-25s to vote; and they are far more likely than older voters to support left-wing parties. But sudden enthusiasms tend to melt away once reality sets in.