Manchester to Sheffield road tunnel plans

[dutch 68]

He was only joking.

These type of things are said to lift GBP image and value.

[geared 317]

Yikes!

 

We do need it, but....

 

At what destructive cost?

 

Well if you start the tunnel at the A628/A616 junction and end it over Tintwistle/Glossop area then technically you've gone under the peak district (national park boundaries) so the effect is greatly reduced.

 

Follow/convert (roughly) existing roads to connect it at either end and it will have less impact IMO.

[JFKvsNixon 11]

Well if you start the tunnel at the A628/A616 junction and end it over Tintwistle/Glossop area then technically you've gone under the peak district (national park boundaries) so the effect is greatly reduced.

 

Follow/convert (roughly) existing roads to connect it at either end and it will have less impact IMO.

 

Where is all the pollution/fumes going to go? There will have to have some sort of ventilation system that'll funnel away the fumes/pollution into the Peak district.

[geared 317]

Perhaps with modern engineering we can install a system to remove the pollutants in the air from the tunnel before it's released onto the Peaks??

I mean the knowledge is there, it's used day to day in quite a few applications but I'm not sure if such a system has ever been made for use with a tunnel??

 

Obviously you can't do anything for the traffic fumes out in the open, but thats not an issue anywhere else in the country so isn't an issue here.

[gomgeg 10]

In the Daily Telegraph: Britain is to build one of the longest road tunnels in the world, under plans to be announced in George Osborne's Budget.The Chancellor will pledge an initial £75 million to fund the 18-mile Trans-Pennine tunnel beneath the Peak District to better connect Sheffield and Manchester.

 

I would have thought the priority should be the proposed Longdendale Bypass which was apparently approved in 2014 but has no start date.

Lord Adonis who's in charge of the infrastructure review was on the radio talking about this today. The first five minutes was all about the M62 and high speed rail updates between Leeds and Manchester, then Liverpool to Hull cross country.

The possibility of a tunnel between Sheffield and Manchester was mentioned in the last few seconds. If things go to form it will never happen as South Yorkshire doesn't seem to be a priority for anyone who doesn't live here.

We had David Blunkett as a minister in a 13 year Labour government, then Nick Clegg as deputy PM and still got very little in the way of infrastructure updates so I can't see there being any change now, just the usual spin.

[tinfoilhat 11]

Lord Adonis who's in charge of the infrastructure review was on the radio talking about this today. The first five minutes was all about the M62 and high speed rail updates between Leeds and Manchester, then Liverpool to Hull cross country.

The possibility of a tunnel between Sheffield and Manchester was mentioned in the last few seconds. If things go to form it will never happen as South Yorkshire doesn't seem to be a priority for anyone who doesn't live here.

We had David Blunkett as a minister in a 13 year Labour government, then Nick Clegg as deputy PM and still got very little in the way of infrastructure updates so I can't see there being any change now, just the usual spin.

 

Totally agree with that - if you aren't going to get any investment in those circumstances you aren't going to get any. There's more chance of a solid gold statue of thatcher built astride the parkway than a tunnel across to Manchester.

[foxy lady 10]

Lord Adonis who's in charge of the infrastructure review was on the radio talking about this today. The first five minutes was all about the M62 and high speed rail updates between Leeds and Manchester, then Liverpool to Hull cross country.

The possibility of a tunnel between Sheffield and Manchester was mentioned in the last few seconds. If things go to form it will never happen as South Yorkshire doesn't seem to be a priority for anyone who doesn't live here.

We had David Blunkett as a minister in a 13 year Labour government, then Nick Clegg as deputy PM and still got very little in the way of infrastructure updates so I can't see there being any change now, just the usual spin.

 

Its hardly surprising that Clegg got nothing. If the electorate here had been a bit more supportive he might have done more, buy he was never going to bother with Sheffield after the Libdem conference.

[Squiggs 11]

At 75 million, he must have budgeted for the disabled to do the work.

 

At 75 million he will have budgeted for a conglomerate of private companies run by mates of his and Conservative Party donors to do the work under a tax-relief initiative

[bullerboY 10]

The 75 million is just for investigation the total amount is said to be 55 billion and counting dont hold your breath.

Edited March 15, 2016 by bullerboY

[gomgeg 10]

Its hardly surprising that Clegg got nothing. If the electorate here had been a bit more supportive he might have done more, buy he was never going to bother with Sheffield after the Libdem conference.

I don't know what more you want the electorate to do. They elected him as MP then re-elected him, if he wasn't prepared to represent them he should have resigned and left the job to someone who would.

His attitude to Sheffield was made quite obvious when he moved hi family home back to London.

[Ted Heath 10]

Lord Adonis who's in charge of the infrastructure review was on the radio talking about this today. The first five minutes was all about the M62 and high speed rail updates between Leeds and Manchester, then Liverpool to Hull cross country.

The possibility of a tunnel between Sheffield and Manchester was mentioned in the last few seconds. If things go to form it will never happen as South Yorkshire doesn't seem to be a priority for anyone who doesn't live here.

We had David Blunkett as a minister in a 13 year Labour government, then Nick Clegg as deputy PM and still got very little in the way of infrastructure updates so I can't see there being any change now, just the usual spin.

 

Im not so sure, if the tunnel is built and it is primarily for motors not rail it could actually compliment what they are considering for Manchester to Leeds re rail. Also such a road would allow anyone wanting to get to north Midlands/East of England from the North West easier access.

 

There is a huge new development for factories, storage facilities near Birdwell/Tankersley this could be the logical start/finish of the tunnel.

[geared 317]

It's not going to happen though, as others have said it's clear as crystal the only improvements will be road and rail between Leeds and Manchester.

Even then it'll pale into insignificance with the money being spent on Transport down in London.

 

I noticed that CrossRail 2 has been green-lit, before Trains have even run the full route of CrossRail 1.

 

Up North it might be decades between major transport improvements, but down South they'll start a new one before existing projects have even finished.

Edited March 15, 2016 by geared