£1.7m for police team to tackle online abuse good or bad idea?

[Orzel 10]

Would the money be better spent actually educating kids about the dangers of online abuse, how to avoid it, how not to abuse and the consequences of online bullying?

It seems that a lot pressure is put on to our underfunded and undermanned police forces who do not have the expertise to investigate the type of offences we are talking about.

 

It can be that expensive to tell kids where 'off' button is.

And to tell parents they are responsible for kids.

[monkey104 10]

It can be that expensive to tell kids where 'off' button is.

And to tell parents they are responsible for kids.

 

True, but everyone is so risk averse theses days and everything seems to be left to the police.

[Andbreathe 10]

If they get abuse why go on these sites?

 

 

If People get burgled why do people buy or rent properties?

 

If people get raped why go out of the house.

 

Your point is illogical...in order to be abused you have to be using social media...unless your point is people actually go on initially to BE abused, or leave their homes to be assaulted, or buy homes to be burgled? All offences by the way attract massive funding in order to tackle..way above 1.7m.

 

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Its not rocket science.

 

 

Your input isn't either, almost word for word predictable....

[ukdobby 224]

If People get burgled why do people buy or rent properties?

 

If people get raped why go out of the house.

 

Your point is illogical...in order to be abused you have to be using social media...unless your point is people actually go on initially to BE abused, or leave their homes to be assaulted, or buy homes to be burgled? All offences by the way attract massive funding in order to tackle..way above 1.7m.

 

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People put alarms and locks on to stop them being burgled,they carry pepper spray or even don't go to the areas where the rapes occur,if you are being bullied by someone on line ignore them or don't go on the sites.

[pmurtdlanod1 10]

what a complete waste of money, people that think they are being bullied "online" take the plug out, take battery out and dont switch it on simple? the problem is its a form of attention seeking being bullied and playing the victim?

[monkey104 10]

what a complete waste of money, people that think they are being bullied "online" take the plug out, take battery out and dont switch it on simple? the problem is its a form of attention seeking being bullied and playing the victim?

 

You can stop coming on here and talking sense for starters!

[milquetoast1 10]

Are those that plan to police this able to give a coherent description of the difference between criticism and hate?

 

If they aren't then it is definitely a waste of money. And a waste of money likely to cause more societal harm rather than less. (Remember Paul Chambers).

 

If they are then it is probably a waste of money ...

[Santo 10]

Are those that plan to police this able to give a coherent description of the difference between criticism and hate?

 

If they aren't then it is definitely a waste of money. And a waste of money likely to cause more societal harm rather than less. (Remember Paul Chambers).

 

If they are then it is probably a waste of money ...

 

Paul Chambers was arrested by anti-terror police. Nothing to do with bullying. Imagine if he had actually done something. The police would have been crucified.

 

There are examples of people making threats online to commit violent crimes and going on to do so. But Chambers shouldn't have been charged.

[milquetoast1 10]

Threats and incitements are covered by existing laws.

[Santo 10]

Threats and incitements are covered by existing laws.

 

Yes, they are. The £1.7m is being used to tackle online bullying.

[milquetoast1 10]

Yes, they are. The £1.7m is being used to tackle online bullying.

 

And I'm saying that unless the people behind the £1.7m scheme can give us a coherent statement of what hatred is, where the line is that separates valid criticism or offence from hate, where hurtful becomes harmful, then it will be a waste of money.

 

Just as Paul Chambers is just one example of injury caused by badly defined laws, this scheme could cause more societal injury than it promises to cure.

 

I also worry that it could also be abused by genuine villains to shut down criticism or exposure.

[Santo 10]

And I'm saying that unless the people behind the £1.7m scheme can give us a coherent statement of what hatred is, where the line is that separates valid criticism or offence from hate, where hurtful becomes harmful, then it will be a waste of money.

 

Just as Paul Chambers is just one example of injury caused by badly defined laws, this scheme could cause more societal injury than it promises to cure.

 

I also worry that it could also be abused by genuine villains to shut down criticism or exposure.

 

There isn't a coherent statement to give. It's up to the victim to decide if they are suffering from fair criticism or a hate crime. It's not black and white.

 

It's then up to the police how to proceed.