melthebell 863 #13 Posted August 14, 2016 Rather than support harassment and bullying why do you think people should put up with it and let the abusers win? People ahve a perfect right to be free from such behaviour and that includes using the mainstream internet. because the main source of trolling is right wing...islamophobic etc why do you think he enjoys it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
999tigger 10 #14 Posted August 14, 2016 I did not explain or phrase that too well did I. It is wrong without any doubt. I meant deciding where to spend the police budget and home office money with all the other crimes that we have. Should the likes of FB and Twitter not have the duty of care enforced on them and be made to moderate more efficiently as opposed to the police doing the job for them. Prosecuting individuals is one thing, but police involvement at this stage is something else. Where do you draw the line? There would be no chance of such abuse happening on SF due to the high level of vigilance and standard of moderating. Fair enough. I think the article doesnt make it clear the exact nature of the abuse and harassment nor what the police will be doing. For instance where an ex partner pursues someone from site to site, then I think the police could get involved. There is an overlap between the internet and the real world. £ 1.7m is a tiny amount compared to the size of the internet and how much uk citizens use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared 317 #15 Posted August 14, 2016 If they get abuse why go on these sites? because with a tiny amount of time online you can usually find a large amount of personal information giving someone the ability to harass a victim anywhere online and then offline as well. You've not been able to avoid abuse by 'not going on those sites' since the 90's :roll::roll: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ukdobby 224 #16 Posted August 15, 2016 because with a tiny amount of time online you can usually find a large amount of personal information giving someone the ability to harass a victim anywhere online and then offline as well. You've not been able to avoid abuse by 'not going on those sites' since the 90's :roll::roll: There's bullies on here and I've been targeted a couple of times,I just ignored them then they went away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Graham 10 #17 Posted August 15, 2016 because the main source of trolling is right wing...islamophobic etc why do you think he enjoys it? What complete dribble. Sheffield Forum is awash with left-wing trolls. The idea that the right have the monopoly on malevolence is just plain daft. There's no nastier, more intolerant creed than Socialism. Capitalism tolerates socialism. Socialism does not tolerate capitalism. Cue... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M 1,625 #18 Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) What complete dribble. Sheffield Forum is awash with left-wing trolls. The idea that the right have the monopoly on malevolence is just plain daft. There's no nastier, more intolerant creed than Socialism. Capitalism tolerates socialism. Socialism does not tolerate capitalism. Cue... Capitalism didn't tolerate socialism in Chile. Any way back on topic. Is there a case for Facebook and other social media organisations to be much more proactive in creating a safe space for users of their service? I think there is. Edited August 15, 2016 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
999tigger 10 #19 Posted August 15, 2016 There's bullies on here and I've been targeted a couple of times,I just ignored them then they went away. I think the polkice would only become involved if it was a whole lot more serious than that. You could also be talking about crossover into real life. ---------- Post added 15-08-2016 at 12:02 ---------- What complete dribble. Sheffield Forum is awash with left-wing trolls. The idea that the right have the monopoly on malevolence is just plain daft. There's no nastier, more intolerant creed than Socialism. Capitalism tolerates socialism. Socialism does not tolerate capitalism. Cue... GJ on taking it out of context. Stick to the topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Graham 10 #20 Posted August 15, 2016 I think the polkice would only become involved if it was a whole lot more serious than that. You could also be talking about crossover into real life. ---------- Post added 15-08-2016 at 12:02 ---------- GJ on taking it out of context. Stick to the topic. OK, for what it's worth - I think the internet gives a voice to millions of people who otherwise would not have one. It easily and quickly facilitates free speech. And there are people out there who need to be heard. But, at the same time, there are way too many who should never be heard. The anonymity that the 'net gives encourages confidence and allows participation without fear. But all too often anonymity is used to mask some base human behaviours. It accentuates the fact that not everyone has the intellect to appreciate it and use this resource wisely. Everyone may have a right to free speech, but not everyone has the resources to deal with it when it is aimed at them. There are some very fragile people out there, who probably shouldn't be engaging in some aspects of social media. But, then again, why should they have to put up with nasty bullying trolls getting their kicks abusing others? When social media is known to be unregulated it just encourages the basest behaviours. I think every website set up for profit should be monitored and an ability for users to report bad behaviour. But, if the police are monitoring then I think that's a good thing if it makes trolls think twice. It's a shame they have to, and taxpayers have to foot the bill for dingbats who can't behave. But then, twas ever thus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared 317 #21 Posted August 15, 2016 There's bullies on here and I've been targeted a couple of times,I just ignored them then they went away. The report says the team is focusing on social media sites, not singular forums. There is many times more information available on a person via social media than on one single forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
taxman 12 #22 Posted August 15, 2016 Drop in the ocean. The police needs to improve its cyber security appropriately, not piecemeal. Are you threatening to drown someone? HATE CRIME! HATE CRIME! Almost bad as telling someone to "get in the sea", I hope you are thoroughly ashamed of your bullying and trolling comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
monkey104 10 #23 Posted August 16, 2016 Would the money be better spent actually educating kids about the dangers of online abuse, how to avoid it, how not to abuse and the consequences of online bullying? It seems that a lot pressure is put on to our underfunded and undermanned police forces who do not have the expertise to investigate the type of offences we are talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch 214 #24 Posted August 16, 2016 Would the money be better spent actually educating kids about the dangers of online abuse, how to avoid it, how not to abuse and the consequences of online bullying? Its already taught in schools during "e-safety week". Whether it has any affect or not is hard to say. Remember when Blue Peter did that piece on Joey Deacon to make children aware of disabilities? The very next day every kid in the playground pushed their tongue into their lower lip and did Joey impressions and the term "mong" was created. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...