dragonsoup   10 #1 Posted March 21, 2004 Anyone else seen Kraftwerk live? went over to the Manchester Apollo the other night. You wouldnt think four bored looking blokes with keyboards and laptops could put on such a good show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
fnkysknky   10 #2 Posted March 21, 2004 No but I'd love to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mike   10 #3 Posted March 21, 2004 Saw them live at a Tribal Gathering a few years back.  Bit dissapointing really, didn't live up to the hype. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mojoworking   10 #4 Posted March 21, 2004 Saw them in Perth a year ago. Not a fan of electronic music generally, but I was impressed at the sound they got from just 4 keyboards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RPG   10 #5 Posted March 21, 2004 I bought Aerodynamik earlier in the week (Vinyl of course) But I prefer their earlier stuff really  Id love to see em live Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
fnkysknky   10 #6 Posted March 21, 2004 Originally posted by mojoworking Saw them in Perth a year ago. Not a fan of electronic music generally, but I was impressed at the sound they got from just 4 keyboards  Thing is they aren't just using 4 keyboards, check this.......  http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/equipment.html#equipment  That's some serious kit they got there.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
bellis   10 #7 Posted March 21, 2004 saw them at the city hall here around 91 exellent concert:thumbsup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dragonsoup   10 #8 Posted March 21, 2004 Think I went to that one as well Panda was better because we were much closer to the stage. But the sound in the Apollo was awesome and from what looked to be a fairly small bank of speakers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mike   10 #9 Posted March 21, 2004 They must be getting on a bit now?  I've got a lot of respect for the part they played in the development of electronic music, but it sounds pretty dated now imho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
garrence   10 #10 Posted March 21, 2004 Are there any decent electro nights in Sheffield? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mojoworking   10 #11 Posted March 22, 2004 Originally posted by fnkysknky Thing is they aren't just using 4 keyboards, check this.......  http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/equipment.html#equipment  That's some serious kit they got there....  Couldn't open the link, but perhaps what I should have said was that they were using just 4 keyboards on stage, plus god knows what else in the way of drum machines, loops, pre-recorded effects etc. etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
fnkysknky   10 #12 Posted March 22, 2004 Hmmm link works fine for me but here's the list just for you  What sort of equipment is used by Kraftwerk? A variety of equipment has been used by Kraftwerk over the years. Here are some examples:-  New equipment used in concerts in 2002 included:-  3 NEC projectors 4 Sony VAIO laptops Cubase SX sofware In recent years Ralf and Florian have established links with German manufacturers Doepfer (particularly in respect of their MAQ 16/3 Analog/MIDI sequencer) and Quasimidi Quasar synthesiser found great favour with Kraftwerk). Equipment for the 1998 world tour included:- Nord Lead 2 synthesiser Studio Electronics SE1 optical drives four Kawai K-5000 synthesisers Quasimidi QM-309 Rave-o-lution synthesiser Tascam DA-88 8-track digital audio recorder 4 Roland mixers Doepfer Regelwerk MIDI Fader Box / Sequencer 2 Doepfer MAQ 16/3 sequencers Doepfer Schaltwerk sequencer Doepfer A-100 modular synthesiser Doepfer MMR4/4 miniature MIDI keyboard custom-made by Doepfer Doepfer LMK2 master keyboard (customised) Waldorf Microwave Boss SE50 effects processor (at least 4 of these) 4 Akai samplers Robovox (see 1990 entry below) laptop computer Eventide effects processor Sony disk drive The concerts for The Mix used an Atari ST for graphics. By the time of the 1997 concert at Tribal Gathering, graphics were apparently supplied by a Toshiba PC with a magneto-optical drive. This concert featured quite a lot of audio equipment by Doepfer, including the Schaltwerk sequencer and the MMK2 miniature keyboard (used in the performance of 'Pocket Calculator'). There were also a couple of Akai samplers, mixers, patchbays and a CD player of the type used by DJs and radio stations. Concerts in June 1992 in the UK featured an Akai DD1000 Digital Recorder. In November 1990, Florian Schneider and colleagues patented a "system for and method of synthesizing singing in real time". This become known as the Robovox. At some points during the 1980's, Kraftwerk used:- NED Synclavier 1 Yamaha TX816 synthesiser 2 Atari ST computers On the 1986 album Electric Cafe: a Linn LM-1 Drum Machine provided kick and snare drum on the track Musique Non-Stop an NED Synclavier provided resynthesized voices on the tracks Electric Cafe and Music Non Stop. On the 1983 single Tour de France, a pre-production E-Mu Emulator sampler provided the Pentatonic Harp Glissando and Slap Bass sounds. The 1981 Computer World tour included:- a Sequential Circuits Prophet 5 synthesiser a Moog Minimoog synthesiser. a Moog Polymoog synthesiser Texas Instruments Speak and Spell electronic game machine (for electronic voices!) Roland MC8 MicroComposer sequencer (although this was not used on any Kraftwerk records). Custom-built 32-step analogue sequencers by Matten & Wiechers. Texas Instruments Pocket Translator The calculator used to make sounds in the song Pocket Calculator was probably the Casio FX-501b. Some of the other sounds on this track were made using a Mattel Bee Gees Rhythm Machine, a battery-powered keyboard released in 1978. A Friendchip "Mr. Lab" unit (aka "Music and Rhythm Laboratory") was used on the 1981 album Computer World. This offered TR808-style rhythm programming and a TB303-style miniature keyboard that allowed the programming of sequencer patterns Equipment used in the late 1970's included:- 2 "Synthanorma" 16-step custom-built analogue sequencers built by Matten & Wiechers. Dirk Matten tells me that there were "2 rows of switches, one for semi-tones, one for octaves". Farfisa electric piano custom-built electronic drum pads Moog Minimoog ARP Odyssey Orchestron (see the separate entry below). On the 1978 album The Man-Machine, a Moog Micromoog synthesiser provides the bass sound on The Model. An Eventide Digital Delay was used on this album only. On the 1977 album Trans-Europe Express, an Eventide FL-201 Instant Flanger was used. On the 1976 album Radioactivity: Ralf Hütter sings through a Roland RE-201 Space Echo on the song Antenna. A military speech synthesizer, based on creating phonemes, was used on the song Radioland. An Orchestron provided choir sounds. On the 1974 album Autobahn, Kraftwerk used: Moog Minimoog ARP (white-faced) Odyssey customized Farfisa Rhythm Unit 10 Vox Percussion King Farfisa Professional Piano EMS Synthi-A Schulte Compact Phasing A Mutron Biphase other outboard equipment in Conny Plank's studio The back cover of the 1973 album Ralf & Florian shows a Moog Minimoog synthesiser, a Farfisa electric piano, an EMS Synthi A synthesiser, flutes and an eight-string guitar. In an interview published in The Guardian (1st March 2001), former Kraftwerk member Karl Bartos says that "in the early days of Kraftwerk" Ralf Hütter "bought an immense and expensive Moog synthesiser". However, all other sources indicate that the only Moog in the early days was the Minimoog mentioned above (the Minimoog was expensive, but not immense like the Moog modular synthesisers). The following vocoders have been used by Kraftwerk: Roland SVC-350 Roland VP-330 Sennheiser VSM-201 EMS 2000/3000/5000 series Synton 221 (unconfirmed) Other equipment used by the band over the years includes:- Hammond L-100 organ Hammond B3 organ Farfisa organ Schaller Rotorsound Dynacord Echocord Dynacord Mini Dynacord Eminent Amplifier Echolette Panorama Mixer Echolette Echocord Super (M61?) Schulte Compact Phasing A Mutron Biphase ARP 2600 modular synthesiser (unconfirmed) ARP 2500 modular synthesiser (unconfirmed) ARP Omni 1 Oberheim SEM synthesiser (unconfirmed) Korg PS-3100 (used live by Karl Bartos) Korg PS-3200 Korg PS-3300 (now owned by Karl Bartos) Texas Instruments TI-99a Computer with Speech Synthesizer cartridge Eventide H-910 Harmonizer Mattel Synsonics electronic drum Roland 100M modular synthesiser Simmons SDS-5 Drum Modules Triggersumme (a precursor of the Simmons SDS-6, a Matrix of 5x32 clocked switches which allowed Wolfgang Flür to program patterns of 2x16 or 1x32 steps, controlling either the Simmons SDS-5 or other rhythm units) Roland TR-808 Rhythm Composer Doepfer A-100 modular synthesiser modules Doepfer MS-404 Roland S-750 sampler Roland S-770 sampler Shure microphones guitars, flutes, a vibraphone and other acoustic instruments, in the early years of the group.  All you need is a MIDI controller connected to your laptop and you've got virtually unlimited possibilities anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...