The consequence thread (Brexit)

[El Cid 220]

There is every chance that this will cause a crumbling of the EU. If you look at history then you can't say that armed conflict is out of the bounds of the possible.

 

Yes, I can quite imagine fisticuffs at Wetherspoons

[L00b 441]

Yep. Reading the (very short) article itself, if the deadline is to be extended then it has to be in agreement with the EU and the member state. So if the EU isn't ready for Brexit after two years and want more time, we can disagree and leave them in whatever condition they are in.

You've not really thought this through, much, have you?

 

[runningman1 12]

Yes, I can quite imagine fisticuffs at Wetherspoons

 

Oil is running out, I am thinking of a scramble for resources.

[the_bloke 17]

You've not really thought this through, much, have you?

 

 

I'm thinking of it from both sides. Both the UK and the EU are entering an unknown period, and the whole protracted process of leaving the union is documented in five paragraphs. For some reason people seem to think the UK won't be able to achieve it in two years, yet the EU will and be sat there twiddling their thumbs once the two year deadline is reached.

[unbeliever 10]

I would be interested to find out whether the Remainers who called the Brexiters fascists (I know they're a minority), are the same ones now trying to get around the referendum result.

It's my experience that people who call their political opponents fascists and such are usually the ones with the least respect for democracy.

 

My main debate opponents, L00b, I1L2T3 and tzistra to name the key ones, made a reasoned principled cased to remain and accepted the result as the will of the people. When I though remain had won, I did the same. What the hell is wrong with some people.

[Eater Sundae 12]

And you'd believe them? After this campaign I wouldn't believe any politician from any party. Liars all.

 

The referendum has energised more people to vote - a good thing.

 

The performance of the leading politicians on both sides will set politics back for years - a very bad thing

[XXTickerXX 10]

I would be interested to find out whether the Remainers who called the Brexiters fascists (I know they're a minority), are the same ones now trying to get around the referendum result.

It's my experience that people who call their political opponents fascists and such are usually the ones with the least respect for democracy.

 

My main debate opponents, L00b, I1L2T3 and tzistra to name the key ones, made a reasoned principled cased to remain and accepted the result as the will of the people. When I though remain had won, I did the same. What the hell is wrong with some people.

 

I had just read this.

 

[Lex Luthor 10]

I'm not hearing similar disgust at the Leave politicians who lied through their teeth during the campaign and, caught fully flat-footed by their win, have been very quick to try and absolve themselves Friday.

 

Boris – would sell his own grandma for a sniff of power – he’s loathsome and any party with a shred of decency would have banished him permanently after the revelations of the Andrew Marr interview.

 

IDS – you do know people died and committed suicide as a result of his actions?

 

Gove – re-structured the public examinations system so that exceptionally bright students with special needs don’t have a chance

 

Farage – couldn’t even turn up for the big C4 debate on the eve of the referendum – then concedes, then claims the victory – total unreliable fool and has been proven to not have the calibre to lead even a pack of dogs

 

I could go on, do I need to? Does that show my disgust enough at the calibre of politicians leading the out campaign?

 

I wonder why that is? ()

 

I don’t know. Could it be that you’re not listening?

 

Delighted to see this thing coming off at the political wheels within 48 hours. You ain't seen nothing yet. By an intergalactic mile. The coming constitutional crisis is going to be like nothing you've ever seen. And I'm not mentioning the economics yet, I'm very happy to bide my time on that one. You'll be back in near-recession territory (if not outright recession) by Xmas 2016.

 

People who voted to leave knew that there was likely to be a period of economic uncertainty but in spite of this still believed it was the best way forward for the whole of the UK and were prepared to take a possible hit for the good of the future of the country, for generations to come, not just looking at immediate gratification. They voted differently to you because they had a different idea of what was best for the country.

 

If you’re ‘very happy’ ‘biding your time’ with your prophesies of ‘doom and gloom’, then that’s up to you, but I don’t see the evidence of you being ‘very happy’ about it. Maybe if you can accept that the leavers are not your enemies, not the 52% - in fact, they probably have more in common with you than you realise, and also not the 48%, so wishing the UK to hell in a handcart as a result of the referendum is helping no one.

Edited June 25, 2016 by Lex Luthor

[Eater Sundae 12]

So 36.55% of eligible voters impact on the other 63.45%...

 

Nearly half of the 63% couldn't care less.

[I1L2T3 10]

16,000,000 to go then.

 

Growing by 3-4000 signatures a minute at the moment

[evildrneil 14]

The true fact of this referendum was Immigration based hence areas with most immigration had the biggest percentage votes to leave.ie Boston/Rotherham etc etc

 

London has the highest level of immigration in the country and it voted stay. It actually looks more like the places (in England at least) with the lowest immigration were more likely to vote leave. It appears that people are scared of the bogeyman of immigration rather than the reality.

[Radan 10]

I would be interested to find out whether the Remainers who called the Brexiters fascists (I know they're a minority), are the same ones now trying to get around the referendum result.

It's my experience that people who call their political opponents fascists and such are usually the ones with the least respect for democracy.

 

My main debate opponents, L00b, I1L2T3 and tzistra to name the key ones, made a reasoned principled cased to remain and accepted the result as the will of the people. When I though remain had won, I did the same. What the hell is wrong with some people.

 

Ahem, may I remind you at midnightish Nigel Farage was conceding and saying those 2m that registered to vote after the deadline was extended had screwed his chances of victory.

 

When Brexit won he described it as a victory for decent people. So remainers are bad people? Since, his 'side' have admitted they lied about two major things (immigration and the NHS). The result was very close. Can you not understand Remain frustration even a little bit?