Is it time for Corbyn to resign.

[foxy lady 10]

But remember there are major boundary changes pending, inc. a reduction from 650 to 600 MPs.

 

I know. Now here's the thing. A year ago the boundary changes were expected to gain the Tories around 22 seats and cost Labour about the same. It would have increased the Tory majority from 12 to 50.

 

But of course that's all before Corbyn came to the fore. Now the Tories would win most of those seats anyhow. So the boundary changes might not actually make much difference. But of course if the Tories are smart they will approve the boundary changes to be implemented in time for the 2025 election. Why have 400 Tory MPs when you could have 426?

[banjodeano 31]

I know. Now here's the thing. A year ago the boundary changes were expected to gain the Tories around 22 seats and cost Labour about the same. It would have increased the Tory majority from 12 to 50.

 

But of course that's all before Corbyn came to the fore. Now the Tories would win most of those seats anyhow. So the boundary changes might not actually make much difference. But of course if the Tories are smart they will approve the boundary changes to be implemented in time for the 2025 election. Why have 400 Tory MPs when you could have 426?

 

Thats if they dont lose a few through fraud

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/01/judge-grants-extension-to-police-investigation-into-tory-election

[foxy lady 10]

Thats if they dont lose a few through fraud

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/01/judge-grants-extension-to-police-investigation-into-tory-election

 

Welcome back. Did you enjoy your enforced holiday?

You do cling to the flimsiest straws don't you. But I suppose it's all you've got. :hihi:

[banjodeano 31]

Welcome back. Did you enjoy your enforced holiday?

You do cling to the flimsiest straws don't you. But I suppose it's all you've got. :hihi:

Enforced holiday? :huh: was i banned

I have just been enjoying standing on the edges watching the minions sharing their pearls of wisdom

[mediumfast 10]

Welcome back. Did you enjoy your enforced holiday?

You do cling to the flimsiest straws don't you. But I suppose it's all you've got. :hihi:

 

At the risk.of appearing slightly rude but without fear of contradiction I have to say you may well be the saddest contributor to The Sheffield Forum that I have ever had the misfortune of reading

[WestTinsley 11]

Only Labour members can vote for either Mr Corbyn or Mr Smith; and that's just as Labour leader.

Prime Ministers are elected by (usually) the MPs of the political party which has the largest number of MPs.

And that rules-out Labour for the time being- maybe for ever.]

 

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thanks for the useful info. but labour leaders are actually voted in by the members and trades union membership. so maybe if labour wins we will get the old tory rednecks and racists out with or without any alliance they have with ukip.Times are changing, sooner if they bring in PR voting . And Scotland leaves the union

[foxy lady 10]

At the risk.of appearing slightly rude but without fear of contradiction I have to say you may well be the saddest contributor to The Sheffield Forum that I have ever had the misfortune of reading

 

 

 

 

Actually I'm one of the happiest. I get happier every day that I see the opinion polls. http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/polls.html

 

And even happier when the Corbynistas revert to insults as you know it's all they've got left.

:hihi::hihi::hihi:

 

And the best bit of course is that after Labour lose half their MPs in 2020, Corbyn probably won't stand down and you'll have him destroying the party until he dies of old age.

Edited August 3, 2016 by foxy lady

[Morphed 10]

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thanks for the useful info. but labour leaders are actually voted in by the members and trades union membership. so maybe if labour wins we will get the old tory rednecks and racists out with or without any alliance they have with ukip.Times are changing, sooner if they bring in PR voting . And Scotland leaves the union

 

Sorry old chap, Caroline Lucas's bill to introduce PR has already been rejected in Parliament.

 

Whilst it's true Labour would have won the 1997 General Election even if no-one in Scotland voted Labour, that was a landslide victory after eighteen years of Tory government. There is simply no way Jeremy Corbyn would win an election if Scotland leaves the Union. He is already very unlikely to win even if they stay.

 

Times are not changing at all. The North London petit-bourgeois hipsters and their radical ideas of how this country would best be for the working people are so far removed from the proper Labour movement that they are nothing but a hindrance to a possible Labour victory for the proletariat.

 

The semi-anarco, semi-Commie movement of Momentum is like an impotent shrivelled stump wannabe Brigate Rosse and their Aldo Moro moment was bricking Eagle's window and calling her a dyke. They have nothing in common with traditional Labour voters. You are far more likely to find them at a pro-Cuba rally than doing anything to support workers in the north of England. Either that or intimidating and threatening to deselect any MP that has the temerity to suggest Corbyn is not the future. It smacks not of democracy but of dictatorship.

 

Jeremy Corbyn is not a muppet as unbeliever called him. He is a bully and a coward who hides himself away and refuses to answer questions of journalists like a sinister figure heading into a court. All he is missing is a blanket over his head. He is devoid of any level of intelligence required to run this country. His friend McConnell is no better. He milks the notion that there is a media conspiracy against him for all it's worth but anyone with sense knows this is pathetic and is used to gloss over his many, many flaws. It is childish, unpleasant, unnecessary and stupid.

[Jim Graham 10]

Sorry old chap, Caroline Lucas's bill to introduce PR has already been rejected in Parliament.

 

Whilst it's true Labour would have won the 1997 General Election even if no-one in Scotland voted Labour, that was a landslide victory after eighteen years of Tory government. There is simply no way Jeremy Corbyn would win an election if Scotland leaves the Union. He is already very unlikely to win even if they stay.

 

Times are not changing at all. The North London petit-bourgeois hipsters and their radical ideas of how this country would best be for the working people are so far removed from the proper Labour movement that they are nothing but a hindrance to a possible Labour victory for the proletariat.

 

The semi-anarco, semi-Commie movement of Momentum is like an impotent shrivelled stump wannabe Brigate Rosse and their Aldo Moro moment was bricking Eagle's window and calling her a dyke. They have nothing in common with traditional Labour voters. You are far more likely to find them at a pro-Cuba rally than doing anything to support workers in the north of England. Either that or intimidating and threatening to deselect any MP that has the temerity to suggest Corbyn is not the future. It smacks not of democracy but of dictatorship.

 

Jeremy Corbyn is not a muppet as unbeliever called him. He is a bully and a coward who hides himself away and refuses to answer questions of journalists like a sinister figure heading into a court. All he is missing is a blanket over his head. He is devoid of any level of intelligence required to run this country. His friend McConnell is no better. He milks the notion that there is a media conspiracy against him for all it's worth but anyone with sense knows this is pathetic and is used to gloss over his many, many flaws. It is childish, unpleasant, unnecessary and stupid.

 

It smacks of Socialism. It's an authoritarian creed that does not tolerate dissent. The foot soldiers carry out the Dear Leaders secret wishes whilst the Dear Leader publicly decries the actions of a few that 'don't represent what we stand for'. Twas ever thus.

[banjodeano 31]

Sorry old chap, Caroline Lucas's bill to introduce PR has already been rejected in Parliament.

 

Whilst it's true Labour would have won the 1997 General Election even if no-one in Scotland voted Labour, that was a landslide victory after eighteen years of Tory government. There is simply no way Jeremy Corbyn would win an election if Scotland leaves the Union. He is already very unlikely to win even if they stay.

 

Times are not changing at all. The North London petit-bourgeois hipsters and their radical ideas of how this country would best be for the working people are so far removed from the proper Labour movement that they are nothing but a hindrance to a possible Labour victory for the proletariat.

 

The semi-anarco, semi-Commie movement of Momentum is like an impotent shrivelled stump wannabe Brigate Rosse and their Aldo Moro moment was bricking Eagle's window and calling her a dyke. They have nothing in common with traditional Labour voters. You are far more likely to find them at a pro-Cuba rally than doing anything to support workers in the north of England. Either that or intimidating and threatening to deselect any MP that has the temerity to suggest Corbyn is not the future. It smacks not of democracy but of dictatorship.

 

Jeremy Corbyn is not a muppet as unbeliever called him. He is a bully and a coward who hides himself away and refuses to answer questions of journalists like a sinister figure heading into a court. All he is missing is a blanket over his head. He is devoid of any level of intelligence required to run this country. His friend McConnell is no better. He milks the notion that there is a media conspiracy against him for all it's worth but anyone with sense knows this is pathetic and is used to gloss over his many, many flaws. It is childish, unpleasant, unnecessary and stupid.

you do realise that Eagles window didnt get bricked dont you.? it was actually a window in a communal stairwell...but hey, dont let the truth hinder a good story uh?

which relevantly brings me onto the second highlighted post ..."he milks the notion that there is a media conspiracy against him"...are you serious? are you actually saying that there is NO media campaign against him?

Even Foxy lady who hates him with an healthy passion, would surely admit that the establishment are against him..

[Morphed 10]

you do realise that Eagles window didnt get bricked dont you.? it was actually a window in a communal stairwell...but hey, dont let the truth hinder a good story uh?

which relevantly brings me onto the second highlighted post ..."he milks the notion that there is a media conspiracy against him"...are you serious? are you actually saying that there is NO media campaign against him?

Even Foxy lady who hates him with an healthy passion, would surely admit that the establishment are against him..

 

A window in her office building was bricked. Your point being? What a staggering excuse for vandalism and intimidation; it was only a stair well. Pathetic to the max dear boy. I seem to recall it was covered up with a Vote Remain placard, which I thought poignant. Don't let the obvious blind you. You ignored the dyke part I see? Can't defend that can you?

 

And yes Bingo, I am 100% saying there is no conspiracy against him. You just wish there was.

Edited August 3, 2016 by Morphed

[banjodeano 31]

A window in her office was bricked. Your point being? I seem to recall it was covered up with a Vote Remain placard, which I thought poignant. Don't let the obvious blind you. You ignored the dyke part I see? Can't defend that can you?

 

And yes Bingo, I am 100% saying there is no conspiracy against him. You just wish there was.

 

No...go and get your facts straight and then come back at me..

it wasnt her office window, as i said it was a window in a communal stairwell, it didnt belong to anyone, but it made a good story for gullible people to believe, as i said, there is a conspiracy against him...thanks for helping me prove my point :thumbsup:

you worked out who is the blind one yet.?

as for being called a Dyke,you tell me any politician who hasnt been called an unpleasant name, but most people take it in their stride and get on with life, they dont use unpleasant words to try and gain political movement from it, that would be really shallow, but it suits hers and the establishments agenda...