Zamo   10 #325 Posted June 25, 2016 Please can I ask how you feel about this? http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/06/tory-brexiter-daniel-hannan-leave-campaign-never-promised-radical-decline  Cheated?  There is no policy on this because 'brexit' isn't a political party. This is one person's idea.  Interesting idea though. You could have the free movement of labour, not people, and just not give non-UK citizens access to public funds and the NHS. That would discourage those that couldn't stand on their own two feet. Might have swung the referendum had Cameron asked and got it. But he didn't because the EU doesn't compromise to keep the plebs happy... they're the elite and it's their EU.  The good news is that the power to decide immigration policy is coming home and the British people can hold the government to account for what they do. Democracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Radan   10 #326 Posted June 25, 2016 There is no policy on this because 'brexit' isn't a political party. This is one person's idea. Interesting idea though. You could have the free movement of labour, not people, and just not give non-UK citizens access to public funds and the NHS. That would discourage those that couldn't stand on their own two feet. Might have swung the referendum had Cameron asked and got it. But he didn't because the EU doesn't compromise to keep the plebs happy... they're the elite and it's their EU.  The good news is that the power to decide immigration policy is coming home and the British people can hold the government to account for what they do. Democracy.  What if the free movement of labour requires 300,000 to keep the economy afloat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #327 Posted June 25, 2016 There is no policy on this because 'brexit' isn't a political party. This is one person's idea. Interesting idea though. You could have the free movement of labour, not people, and just not give non-UK citizens access to public funds and the NHS. That would discourage those that couldn't stand on their own two feet. Might have swung the referendum had Cameron asked and got it. But he didn't because the EU doesn't compromise to keep the plebs happy... they're the elite and it's their EU.  The good news is that the power to decide immigration policy is coming home and the British people can hold the government to account for what they do. Democracy.  So interesting that most EU countries already implemented it. Funny thing, they didn't need the EU to tell them how to do it. They just went ahead and fixed the issue they had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999 Â Â 10 #328 Posted June 25, 2016 Â Â And Dennis Skinner backed his constituents the whole way. A pity Sheffield does not have M.P."s and councillors like Dennis and Worksops John Mann M .P."s who actually are in touch with what the labour voters in their area want. Â Generally ive no time for Skinner ,but on this issue he is bang on the money ,as is Mann . Â Also East Lindsey and Boston. There is a theme here. Â Correct. Â ---------- Post added 25-06-2016 at 15:49 ---------- Â What if the free movement of labour requires 300,000 to keep the economy afloat? Â We have more than enough unskilled labour of our own sat on the dole to fill those positions. We dont need migrant workers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,622 #329 Posted June 25, 2016 For years and years our politicians have ignored the publics concerns over mass immigration . They wouldnt listen and treated the public with contempt and on occasions basically called any one who voiced their concerns "Racists" . Â Ignore the voters ate your peril is the lesson here. Â A good example of this is in Bolsover ,just down the road. Since Sportsdirect open their massive distribution hub a couple of miles away in Shirebrook , Bolsover has been swamped with migrant workers and the towns infrastructure just cannot cope. Local people cant find houses to live in . Bolsover voted 70%- 30% to leave the EU because of migration. Â Many times since sportsdriect opened its been on the news reporting local residents telling the powers that be the town cannot cope with the influx of thousands of migrant workers , but no one listened , so they used the referendum as their chance to maske the politicians listen . Â This has happened all over the country. Â If you want to blame anyone for people voting to leave, blame the politicians who simply ignored the public`s concerns over mass immigration. Â Your a landlord, apparently. There's a business opportunity for you. Â ---------- Post added 25-06-2016 at 15:57 ---------- Â There is no policy on this because 'brexit' isn't a political party. This is one person's idea. Interesting idea though. You could have the free movement of labour, not people, and just not give non-UK citizens access to public funds and the NHS. That would discourage those that couldn't stand on their own two feet. Might have swung the referendum had Cameron asked and got it. But he didn't because the EU doesn't compromise to keep the plebs happy... they're the elite and it's their EU. Â The good news is that the power to decide immigration policy is coming home and the British people can hold the government to account for what they do. Democracy. Â Nevertheless, many right wingers in the Brexit debate implied that should they win the referendum they would do something about immigration, and the problems it brings, as they perceive it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999 Â Â 10 #330 Posted June 25, 2016 Your a landlord, apparently. There's a business opportunity for you. ---------- Post added 25-06-2016 at 15:57 ---------- Â Â Nevertheless, many right wingers in the Brexit debate implied that should they win the referendum they would do something about immigration, and the problems it brings, as they perceive it. Â I stick to students , no hassle ,easy money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Radan   10 #331 Posted June 25, 2016 Generally ive no time for Skinner ,but on this issue he is bang on the money ,as is Mann .   Correct.  ---------- Post added 25-06-2016 at 15:49 ----------   We have more than enough unskilled labour of our own sat on the dole to fill those positions. We dont need migrant workers  Sorry Penistone, considering we have low level unemployment in this country it's pretty clear we need migrant workers. And that won't stop after Brexit. So, will you feel cheated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999 Â Â 10 #332 Posted June 25, 2016 Sorry Penistone, considering we have low level unemployment in this country it's pretty clear we need migrant workers. And that won't stop after Brexit. So, will you feel cheated? Â We have millions unemployed . A large number of those unskilled ,manual labour. Im sorry ,but we do NOT need , unskilled migrant workers . Im all in favour of us attracting skilled, highly qualified people where we have vacancies . IE, doctors, nurses, lawyers, surgeons , scientists , but the unskilled are not needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Radan   10 #333 Posted June 25, 2016 We have millions unemployed . A large number of those unskilled ,manual labour. Im sorry ,but we do NOT need , unskilled migrant workers . Im all in favour of us attracting skilled, highly qualified people where we have vacancies . IE, doctors, nurses, lawyers, surgeons , scientists , but the unskilled are not needed.  Ok. What if they are though, to prop up the economy? 100,000 ok?  188,000 came from outside the EU last year. We needed them or we granted them asylum. Could be the same next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #334 Posted June 25, 2016 I stick to students , no hassle ,easy money.  You know all those big student flats going up all over Sheffield? What is going to happen when the several thousand EU students stop coming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lex Luthor   10 #335 Posted June 25, 2016 Shh, they might get a dictionary out and understand what you are saying next!   Just because the majority of the UK public have shown that they disagree with you on EU membership, it gives you and others absolutely no right whatsoever to label 52% of the UK collectively as thick, racist, or whatever other insults you have ignorantly and shamelessly thrown at them.  Just like the privileged in this country like to paint the underprivileged as scroungers, as it provides them with an excuse not to give two hoots about them, the mainly privileged Remainers now want to dismiss the people who voted to leave as lacking in intelligence, racists and xenophobes and little Englanders, because it provides them with an excuse not to face up to the real issues.  For the most part, this is not about racism or xenophobia, it’s about ordinary people who have been disenfranchised, trodden down and ignored, making their voice heard. They wanted to make Cameron suffer, who has left them out to dry and the banks and big business who are squeezing them to the pips whilst directors are taking huge profits.  The government, and big business thought the British public would be frightened and bullied in to voting how they wanted them to but they were wrong.  Do you think they were voting with Boris, or Farage, or for the rise of facism? No – they simply wanted to be heard and they saw this as their only chance.  Do you think they don’t know it’s not without risk? Of course they do, but they are so browbeaten they just needed to do something!  If Cameron, the Conservatives, the privileged, and business owners in the UK had shown a little more compassion to the less fortunate in this country instead of being consumed with greed and all out for themselves then the people would not have felt that they had no other choice than to use this vote to give the country a massive shake up.  What were the business owners in this country doing whilst working families were queuing up at foodbanks, having much needed in-work benefits cut, and waiting for weeks for an appointment to see their GP? They were creating a petition with their privileged friends to persuade the government to drop their taxes more.  Cameron has to take the majority of the blame for this. If he had proven himself to be a trustworthy man during his office, then more of the public would have trusted him. Even now, he his still breaking his promise to the people that he would remain in power and be managing Brexit.  Whoever said that the British public have short memories underestimated them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #336 Posted June 25, 2016 There is no policy on this because 'brexit' isn't a political party. This is one person's idea. Interesting idea though. You could have the free movement of labour, not people, and just not give non-UK citizens access to public funds and the NHS. That would discourage those that couldn't stand on their own two feet. Might have swung the referendum had Cameron asked and got it. But he didn't because the EU doesn't compromise to keep the plebs happy... they're the elite and it's their EU.  The good news is that the power to decide immigration policy is coming home and the British people can hold the government to account for what they do. Democracy.  Yes, vote labour = actively bring in immigrants. Vote conservative = can't control none EU immigration. Awesome choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...