Warning!! Dangerous dogs Leashall Woods Gleadless Valley

[Geekygirl]

I've had an awful experience walking my Jack Russell in Leashall woods today and wanted to let people know as the dog owner was aggressive and threatened to set his dogs on mine to kill him and he said he walks has dogs there everyday and is a member of a dog walking club there. He had 2 dogs, a really large tan dog, maybe Staffin x mastiff and a grey wrinkly dog, share pei I think. The big dog was off the lead and running up to me growling. I put my walking stick in front of me to create a barrier and asked him to get his dog at which point he became very verbally aggressive and took a long time to get his dog. I kept walking as fast as I could away but he sped up to follow encouraging the share pei to attack my dog. It was on an extending lead and he kept letting it run right up to us snapping and growling at my dog, only stopping it inches away from us. This was repeated several times while he shouted abuse including saying I'd seen him so I shouldn't have walked my dog in the woods and if he saw us again he would set his dogs on me so they would kill my dog. Eventually I lost my temper and told him if he set his dog on us again I would hit it with my stick. Not mature maybe but by that time I was terrified. He then did call his dogs off but continued to shout abuse and threats also saying I was 'only doing it because he was black' and abusing me beause im white and disabled. I replied I didn't care what colour he was I just wanted him to control his dogs. I will not be going walking there again l, as a 5.4 disabled lady, was terrified that myself or my dog would be savaged. Be warned if you go there avoid this man at all costs!!!!

[teeny]

I've had an awful experience walking my Jack Russell in Leashall woods today and wanted to let people know as the dog owner was aggressive and threatened to set his dogs on mine to kill him and he said he walks has dogs there everyday and is a member of a dog walking club there. He had 2 dogs, a really large tan dog, maybe Staffin x mastiff and a grey wrinkly dog, share pei I think. The big dog was off the lead and running up to me growling. I put my walking stick in front of me to create a barrier and asked him to get his dog at which point he became very verbally aggressive and took a long time to get his dog. I kept walking as fast as I could away but he sped up to follow encouraging the share pei to attack my dog. It was on an extending lead and he kept letting it run right up to us snapping and growling at my dog, only stopping it inches away from us. This was repeated several times while he shouted abuse including saying I'd seen him so I shouldn't have walked my dog in the woods and if he saw us again he would set his dogs on me so they would kill my dog. Eventually I lost my temper and told him if he set his dog on us again I would hit it with my stick. Not mature maybe but by that time I was terrified. He then did call his dogs off but continued to shout abuse and threats also saying I was 'only doing it because he was black' and abusing me beause im white and disabled. I replied I didn't care what colour he was I just wanted him to control his dogs. I will not be going walking there again l, as a 5.4 disabled lady, was terrified that myself or my dog would be savaged. Be warned if you go there avoid this man at all costs!!!!

please report to the police , they are aware of this kind of incident , i presume you mean the woods at the back of the allotments ?

[Geekygirl]

The ones that run down the side of Norton golf course down to behind the Blackstock Rd tip. I tried to call the police gave up after being on hold for 20 minutes. Going to do a online report to them. Thanks

[spilldig]

My wife and I had to stop going for walks there because of dogs, off lead and threatening.

[Stoned]

I've had an awful experience walking my Jack Russell in Leashall woods today and wanted to let people know as the dog owner was aggressive and threatened to set his dogs on mine to kill him and he said he walks has dogs there everyday and is a member of a dog walking club there. He had 2 dogs, a really large tan dog, maybe Staffin x mastiff and a grey wrinkly dog, share pei I think. The big dog was off the lead and running up to me growling. I put my walking stick in front of me to create a barrier and asked him to get his dog at which point he became very verbally aggressive and took a long time to get his dog. I kept walking as fast as I could away but he sped up to follow encouraging the share pei to attack my dog. It was on an extending lead and he kept letting it run right up to us snapping and growling at my dog, only stopping it inches away from us. This was repeated several times while he shouted abuse including saying I'd seen him so I shouldn't have walked my dog in the woods and if he saw us again he would set his dogs on me so they would kill my dog. Eventually I lost my temper and told him if he set his dog on us again I would hit it with my stick. Not mature maybe but by that time I was terrified. He then did call his dogs off but continued to shout abuse and threats also saying I was 'only doing it because he was black' and abusing me beause im white and disabled. I replied I didn't care what colour he was I just wanted him to control his dogs. I will not be going walking there again l, as a 5.4 disabled lady, was terrified that myself or my dog would be savaged. Be warned if you go there avoid this man at all costs!!!!

 

Disgusting. Have you reported this racist bully.

[dragoness]

Have had problems with off lead dogs myself.

One of my dogs, a small terrier, is a rescue, who was used as a bait dog as a pup and he has also been attacked by another dog whilst he was on a lead. As a result he is terrified of dogs he doesn't know and sees them as a threat. We have tried various training methods and classes, but to no avail. We keep him under control, on a lead at all times, and try to keep walking to minimise confrontation - unfortunately many people just ignore their unleashed dogs or actively encourage them to approach us. We try to politely ask them to take hold of their dogs and then get verbally abused for doing so. We have been accused of not keeping our dog under control - excuse me? our dog is on a leash and we were actively trying to avoid your dog which isn't!

We also have a yellow 'I need space' sleeve on his lead.

Our other dog, also a terrier, has been with us since she was a pup and so we were able to socialise her properly, as a result she just wants to be everyone's friend.

[L00b]

One of my dogs, a small terrier, is a rescue, who was used as a bait dog as a pup and he has also been attacked by another dog whilst he was on a lead. As a result he is terrified of dogs he doesn't know and sees them as a threat. We have tried various training methods and classes, but to no avail. We keep him under control, on a lead at all times, and try to keep walking to minimise confrontation - unfortunately many people just ignore their unleashed dogs or actively encourage them to approach us. We try to politely ask them to take hold of their dogs and then get verbally abused for doing so. We have been accused of not keeping our dog under control - excuse me? our dog is on a leash and we were actively trying to avoid your dog which isn't!

I could have written all of the above word for word about our Patterdale (...which aren't ever great socialisers to begin with, never mind as severely abused/traumatised rescues).

 

I'm sure you'll have developed a fairly thick skin, out of interaction with the irresponsible kind of owners you mention.

 

For the rest, you just have to be philosophical: if no amount of fair warning to the other owner(s) can result in a recall of the unleashed dog and prevent an incident (the unleashed dog(s) come too close to your no matter how short you hold yours), then just let the incident happen and do not ever impede your dog's movements and self-defence. You'd be doing more harm than good. Over the past 4 years, ours has been attacked 5 times on a leash around our place. Now I always give fair warning and ask the owner to recall from plenty afar, but if the other dog is coming no matter what, I'm afraid that if the other dog does have a pop at ours (and I mean an attack, not merely a growl), I let go of the leash and what follows follows.

 

We've been walking ours (like you, permanently on a leash, and a solid short-ish chain non-extendible one, as he's a big-ish terrier) around the same area for a long time now, most other locals know him and us by sight and leash theirs as soon as they us, no issues at all, friendly hellos exchanged as we pass, and all is well.

 

It's only ever newcomers or "transients" (people who drive and park near our place to walk their dogs in green surroundings) with unleashed dogs who cause problems, with the usual:

 

other owner: "Oh don't worry, he/she is nice, just wants to say hello"

me: "our dog is the problem, he's highly unsociable, can you please recall your dog(s)"

other owner: "weirdo/you shouldn't be out/your dog is dangerous/bla-blah-bla"

Edited April 22, 2016 by L00b

[samssong]

I could have written all of the above word for word about our Patterdale (...which aren't ever great socialisers to begin with, never mind as severely abused/traumatised rescues).

 

I'm sure you'll have developed a fairly thick skin, out of interaction with the irresponsible kind of owners you mention.

 

For the rest, you just have to be philosophical: if no amount of fair warning to the other owner(s) can result in a recall of the unleashed dog and prevent an incident (the unleashed dog(s) come too close to your no matter how short you hold yours), then just let the incident happen and do not ever impede your dog's movements and self-defence. You'd be doing more harm than good. Over the past 4 years, ours has been attacked 5 times on a leash around our place. Now I always give fair warning and ask the owner to recall from plenty afar, but if the other dog is coming no matter what, I'm afraid that if the other dog does have a pop at ours (and I mean an attack, not merely a growl), I let go of the leash and what follows follows.

 

We've been walking ours (like you, permanently on a leash, and a solid short-ish chain non-extendible one, as he's a big-ish terrier) around the same area for a long time now, most other locals know him and us by sight and leash theirs as soon as they us, no issues at all, friendly hellos exchanged as we pass, and all is well.

 

It's only ever newcomers or "transients" (people who drive and park near our place to walk their dogs in green surroundings) with unleashed dogs who cause problems, with the usual:

 

other owner: "Oh don't worry, he/she is nice, just wants to say hello"

me: "our dog is the problem, he's highly unsociable, can you please recall your dog(s)"

other owner: "weirdo/you shouldn't be out/your dog is dangerous/bla-blah-bla"

Are you sure that it is not you that has a problem dog.

[Cyclone]

Did you actually read what L00b posted?

 

me: "our dog is the problem, he's highly unsociable, can you please recall your dog(s)"

 

He knows that his dog has issues and is doing everything he can to avoid a problem.

 

Allowing an off lead dog to approach is the height of stupidity if the on lead dog owner is telling you that it will be a problem.

[dragoness]

Thank you L00b, for being so understanding, our dog is about 30cms to his shoulder and fairly slightly built, my fear is that he would come of worse in any confrontation which resulted in an actual fight.

We too have had many of the conversations which start with 'don't worry he/she is friendly'

Our most recent confrontation involved an elderly woman (she looked as though butter wouldn't melt in her mouth), and her unleashed dog - her attitude & language were appalling.