Tommo68 Â Â 10 #37 Posted August 21, 2014 For bikers tyres brakes and steering keep you, your passengers and other people alive, or safe, its much the same for any other vehicle. Â Spend your money as you think fit. . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
shanes teeth   10 #38 Posted August 21, 2014 It wasn't so long back that Kwik Fit's budget Arrowspeed brand was recommended and only slightly behind Pirelli or Goodyear (can't remember which) in stopping distance in the wet.  The diference between stopping before hitting that child or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eater Sundae   12 #39 Posted August 21, 2014 so you can have max grip and least rolling resistence? how can soft rubber be same wear as hard rubber?  Read some of the independent tests, eg by Which, or Auto Bild or Auto Express.  Yes, you can get these sort of combinations of features. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   213 #40 Posted August 22, 2014 Is that the reason why formula one soft tyres only last 10 laps while the harder compound can last 30?  Tyres last various numbers laps there are no fixed numbers, depending on the track layout, temperature, age of the tyres (some have been used in practice and qualifying) and how the driver handles the car.  ---------- Post added 22-08-2014 at 09:25 ----------  The diference between stopping before hitting that child or not?  If they were so dangerous they wouldn't sell them. The stopping distances in the dry at 70mph were:  Goodyear Optigrip – 53.4 metres Ovation VI-182 – 53.4 metres ArrowSpeed CP661 – 53.9 metres Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
razvanalbu   10 #41 Posted August 22, 2014 Read some of the independent tests, eg by Which, or Auto Bild or Auto Express. Yes, you can get these sort of combinations of features.  Might aswell read the mail. Tyres will always be a compromise between grip in dry/wet and wear. Show me a tyre that score 10 in all test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   212 #42 Posted August 22, 2014 Might aswell read the mail. Tyres will always be a compromise between grip in dry/wet and wear. Show me a tyre that score 10 in all test.  http://www.criefftyres.co.uk/TyreSearch/Details/25563/Kumho+KH27+18565R15  This Kumho tyre scores quite good, double B, there does seem to be seem where the grip goes up, and fuel economy goes down. The tyre in the link even has different scores with different sizes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
razvanalbu   10 #43 Posted August 22, 2014 http://www.criefftyres.co.uk/TyreSearch/Details/25563/Kumho+KH27+18565R15 This Kumho tyre scores quite good, double B, there does seem to be seem where the grip goes up, and fuel economy goes down. The tyre in the link even has different scores with different sizes.  "there does seem to be seem where the grip goes up, and fuel economy goes down" thats what i been saying all the time, its always a compromise between grip and wear. then we get a geek who googles some rubblish and copy and paste it on here while knowing nothing about tyres Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eater Sundae   12 #44 Posted August 22, 2014 Might aswell read the mail. Tyres will always be a compromise between grip in dry/wet and wear. Show me a tyre that score 10 in all test.  No, but plenty score highly across the board, whereas some others are much more hit and miss and much less able across the board. This is surely the point of the thread.  I see you're now expecting 10s across the board to justify your claim, instead of actually considering what people have said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
razvanalbu   10 #45 Posted August 22, 2014 No, but plenty score highly across the board, whereas some others are much more hit and miss and much less able across the board. This is surely the point of the thread. I see you're now expecting 10s across the board to justify your claim, instead of actually considering what people have said.  If there is no need for comprises why not have 10s all the way ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eater Sundae   12 #46 Posted August 22, 2014 If there is no need for comprises why not have 10s all the way ???  Who's said there is NO compromise?  Of course, a couple of the compromises are development and manufacturing costs.  The companies that are chasing the higher scores across the board spend more to achieve this, and the customers therefore finish up paying more for these tyres.  As a result, better scores across the board tend to go hand in hand with higher prices in the shops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
razvanalbu   10 #47 Posted August 22, 2014 Who's said there is NO compromise? Of course, a couple of the compromises are development and manufacturing costs.  The companies that are chasing the higher scores across the board spend more to achieve this, and the customers therefore finish up paying more for these tyres.  As a result, better scores across the board tend to go hand in hand with higher prices in the shops.  have you read what Obelix's google and paste?  ---------- Post added 22-08-2014 at 13:42 ----------  The diference between stopping before hitting that child or not?  Goodyear Optigrip – 53.4 metres Ovation VI-182 – 53.4 metres ArrowSpeed CP661 – 53.9 metres like 0.5 of a meter out of 53 meters:huh: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eater Sundae   12 #48 Posted August 22, 2014 have you read what Obelix's google and paste? ---------- Post added 22-08-2014 at 13:42 ----------   Goodyear Optigrip – 53.4 metres Ovation VI-182 – 53.4 metres ArrowSpeed CP661 – 53.9 metres like 0.5 of a meter out of 53 meters:huh:  Re bib.  I'm not interested in Obelix's copy and paste.  I stick by what I said, good results ACROSS THE BOARD, go hand in hand with higher development and manufacturing costs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...