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If you took the time to look at the video I posted - in the photo of the island you can see at least half of the mountain. Not to mention the photo was clearly taken from high up on a mountain.

 

Anyway,explain to me how you are able to see the Chicago skyline from the 60 miles across Michigan Bay? The skyline should be under 2400 ft of curvature.

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If you took the time to look at the video I posted - in the photo of the island you can see at least half of the mountain. Not to mention the photo was clearly taken from high up on a mountain.

 

Anyway,explain to me how you are able to see the Chicago skyline from the 60 miles across Michigan Bay? The skyline should be under 2400 ft of curvature.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon#Geometrical_model

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I must have missed something somewhere. why is there attempts to prove the earth isn't flat ?

 

It's very obviously not flat, no maths needed whatsoever, just look at it! A big round thing, spherical one would say, photos of it from space are abundant. get in a plane see it for yourself.

 

What did I miss?

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I must have missed something somewhere. why is there attempts to prove the earth isn't flat ?

 

It's very obviously not flat, no maths needed whatsoever, just look at it! A big round thing, spherical one would say, photos of it from space are abundant. get in a plane see it for yourself.

 

What did I miss?

 

Those photos are faked. And the satellites our modern communications seem to run on aren't real. All communications are secretly carried by an army of pigeons.

People who think they went right around the world were actually just going in circles. If you actually tried you'd fall off the edge. Although if you were lucky you might land on the turtle or get caught on the trunk of one of the elephants.

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there's a good chance of that actually, I heard its turtles all the way down....

 

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damn it! I forgot to get pratchett to sign the science of discworld book, anyone know where he's burried? A thumbprint would do.

 

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The problem with the big bang is the huge cop out that all rules are void prior to the event,

"Since events before the Big Bang have no observational consequences, one may as well cut them out of the theory, and say that time began at the Big Bang. Events before the Big Bang, are simply not defined, because there's no way one could measure what happened at them. "

 

It's as poor as 'and then there was light' as far as understanding/explanation goes.

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The photos are actually pictures.

 

Computer generated images or CGI's.

 

NASA make the pictures up from the 'ribbon technology'.

 

Still no answer as to why we are able to see the Chicago skyline from the 60 miles across Michigan Bay - when the skyline should be under 2400 ft of the earths curvature?

 

Please don't tell me its a bending of light!

 

Mirages are not that detailed - they are hazy and move.

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The photos are actually pictures.

 

Computer generated images or CGI's.

 

NASA make the pictures up from the 'ribbon technology'.

 

Still no answer as to why we are able to see the Chicago skyline from the 60 miles across Michigan Bay - when the skyline should be under 2400 ft of the earths curvature?

 

Please don't tell me its a bending of light!

 

Mirages are not that detailed - they are hazy and move.

 

You have had that explained at least three times already eg

Post 215:

 

For example from 700' the horizon will be 36 miles away.

 

"If two 700' hills were separated by 70 miles of water their summits would be visible to each other. Their bases would not be visible to each other which is because of curvature of the Earth."

 

You yourself say that you can only see "... at least half of the mountain...".

This is exactly as predicted by the curvature of the Earth and is the opposite to what flat Earth predicts.

 

In one of the simplest experiments ever Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth to within 15% accuracy, 2200 years ago.

Basically look down a well on the equator and you will see the Sun reflected at the bottom 365 days of the year. The days visible will reduce to zero as you approach the lines of the tropics along the same latitude. If time is constant and distance are known then maths gives you the circumference. Not bad for a bloke who did not have Conspiracy Theories to contend with- oops forgot about Mythology.

 

Sailors approaching their home port could estimate their distance on how the coast "raises" before them.

 

Alfred Russel Wallace 'the Evolution man' was a qualified surveyor and established the curvature of the Bedford levels.

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The photos are actually pictures.

 

Computer generated images or CGI's.

 

NASA make the pictures up from the 'ribbon technology'.

 

Still no answer as to why we are able to see the Chicago skyline from the 60 miles across Michigan Bay - when the skyline should be under 2400 ft of the earths curvature?

 

Please don't tell me its a bending of light!

 

Mirages are not that detailed - they are hazy and move.

 

You realise that the Earth isn't completely, perfectly spherical, right?

I mean, there's hills and valleys, mountains and plains etc.

 

Imagine being an amoeba-sized being, standing on the edge of a dimple on the surface of a golf ball. You may look across to the opposite edge of the dimple in the distance and think that there's no way your world/golf ball can be round because you can clearly see your amoeba friend standing way over in the distance (using your amoeba telescope to witness this).

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In addition to the implications for the Sun and stars (they are not hot balls of gas, they are condensed matter), the 'CMB' (it does not exist), and the Big Bang creationism (it is false), the invalidity of Kirchhoff's Law of Thermal Emission and the non-universality of Planck's equation for thermal spectra also mean that Planck's Natural Units (the so-called 'Planck units') have no special character; no different, for instance, to measuring distance in yards or metres.

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Mac33,

 

Scientific America,

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As countless photos from space can attest, Earth is round—the "Blue Marble," as astronauts have affectionately dubbed it. Appearances, however, can be deceiving. Planet Earth is not, in fact, perfectly round.

This is not to say Earth is flat. Well before Columbus sailed the ocean blue, Aristotle and other ancient Greek scholars proposed that Earth was round. This was based on a number of observations, such as the fact that departing ships not only appeared smaller as they sailed away but also seemed to sink into the horizon, as one might expect if sailing across a ball says geographer Bill Carstensen of Virginia Tech in Blacksburg.

Isaac Newton first proposed that Earth was not perfectly round. Instead, he suggested it was an oblate spheroid—a sphere that is squashed at its poles and swollen at the equator. He was correct and, because of this bulge, the distance from Earth's center to sea level is roughly 21 kilometers (13 miles) greater at the equator than at the poles.

Instead of Earth being like a spinning top made of steel, explains geologist Vic Baker at the University of Arizona in Tucson it has "a bit of plasticity that allows the shape to deform very slightly. The effect would be similar to spinning a bit of Silly Putty, though Earth's plasticity is much, much less than that of the silicone plastic clay so familiar to children."

Our globe, however, is not even a perfect oblate spheroid, because mass is distributed unevenly within the planet. The greater a concentration of mass is, the stronger its gravitational pull, "creating bumps around the globe," says geologist Joe Meert at the University of Florida in Gainesville.

Earth's shape also changes over time due to a menagerie of other dynamic factors. Mass shifts around inside the planet, altering those gravitational anomalies. Mountains and valleys emerge and disappear due to plate tectonics. Occasionally meteors crater the surface. And the gravitational pull of the moon and sun not only cause ocean and atmospheric tides but earth tides as well.

In addition, the changing weight of the oceans and atmosphere can cause deformations of the crust "on the order of a centimeter or so," notes geophysicist Richard Gross at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "There's also postglacial rebound, with the crust and mantle that were depressed by the huge ice sheets that sat on the surface during the last ice age now rebounding upward on the order of a centimeter a year."

Moreover, to even out Earth's imbalanced distribution of mass and stabilize its spin, "the entire surface of the Earth will rotate and try to redistribute mass along the equator, a process called true polar wander," Meert says.

To keep track of Earth's shape, scientists now position thousands of Global Positioning System receivers on the ground that can detect changes in their elevation of a few millimeters, Gross says. Another method, dubbed satellite laser ranging, fires visible-wavelength lasers from a few dozen ground stations at satellites. Any changes detected in their orbits correspond to gravitational anomalies and thus mass distributions inside the planet. Still another technique, very long baseline interferometry, has radio telescopes on the ground listen to extragalactic radio waves to detect changes in the positions of the ground stations. It may not take much technology to understand that Earth is not perfectly round, but it takes quite a bit of effort and equipment to determine its true shape.

 

It's "round ish". For navigational purposes it's a spere.

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The photos are actually pictures.

 

Computer generated images or CGI's.

 

NASA make the pictures up from the 'ribbon technology'.

 

Still no answer as to why we are able to see the Chicago skyline from the 60 miles across Michigan Bay - when the skyline should be under 2400 ft of the earths curvature?

 

Please don't tell me its a bending of light!

 

Mirages are not that detailed - they are hazy and move.

 

Have you an answer to my post #230?

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