Cyclone   10 #145 Posted February 22, 2016 From what I've understood it will require a new version of ios. Which they push onto the phone, after which they brute force the password. They can then reset the pin to 0000, put the secure version of ios back, hand the phone to the FBI agent and delete the broken version of ios that they created.  Created might even be as simple as take ios3.0, increment the version number to 10.0 (so the phone is told it's newer than the current one) and job done. (Although I doubt it would be that easy). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ghozer   112 #146 Posted February 22, 2016 From what I've understood it will require a new version of ios. Which they push onto the phone, after which they brute force the password. They can then reset the pin to 0000, put the secure version of ios back, hand the phone to the FBI agent and delete the broken version of ios that they created.  Created might even be as simple as take ios3.0, increment the version number to 10.0 (so the phone is told it's newer than the current one) and job done. (Although I doubt it would be that easy).  But 'updating' the phone (unless it's OTA or an incremental none major version) will erase everything on the phone.... iOS3 (as you used it in your example) is so different behind the scenes that it isn't compatible with 5C hardware, and won't work.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #147 Posted February 23, 2016 Hence why I said I doubt it will be quite that easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchemist   37 #148 Posted February 23, 2016 http://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/23/doj-vs-apple-12-court-orders/  And so it has started, the thin end of the wedge. Soon it will be people suspected of trumping in the street Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #149 Posted February 23, 2016 If the FBI can convince a court to issue a warrant. Just like they have to do for any other search... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eric Arthur   10 #150 Posted February 23, 2016 If the FBI can convince a court to issue a warrant. Just like they have to do for any other search...  It's well beyond the thin end of the wedge, we're only seeing what they request in public courts, not the secret FISA courts which are to all day to day intents and purposes answerable to nobody.  This is a very, very bad thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #151 Posted February 24, 2016 The government already has "the right", what it doesn't have is "the means".  Had a little chuckle this morning when I saw this on bookface Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #152 Posted February 24, 2016 It's well beyond the thin end of the wedge, we're only seeing what they request in public courts, not the secret FISA courts which are to all day to day intents and purposes answerable to nobody. This is a very, very bad thing.  Secret courts are indeed a bad thing, I totally agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mrs brady   10 #153 Posted February 24, 2016 They don't need to develop the technology for brute force attacks because there really are 14 year old school boys with the technology. Beside, with a 4 digit pin, you could crack it manually within a couple of days.  I concur Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #154 Posted February 24, 2016 I concur  He's still wrong, even if you concur... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eric Arthur   10 #155 Posted February 24, 2016 Secret courts are indeed a bad thing, I totally agree.  Then there are the very very very bad things that they do without even referring to a FISA court, and we only know because Snowden for lifted the lid by stealing the secrets that they had been stealing from us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #156 Posted February 24, 2016 They don't need to develop the technology for brute force attacks because there really are 14 year old school boys with the technology. Beside, with a 4 digit pin, you could crack it manually within a couple of days.  Don't you only get a few attempts with an i-telephone before it locks out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...