Is History about to repeat itself?

[L00b]

I disagree, I'm sure that the allied troops on the ground made the desire factor, especially the soviet ones.

Figure of speech, just like the "back to the stone age" post you were replying to (as if the West's rules of engagement would ever allow it to bomb anywhere back to the stone age ).

 

I didn't take your question to be literal, but to mean that total war would not win a conflict against Daesh. I'm thinking that it would, like it always has whenever countries have been at a total war and a side has lost.

 

Daesh is giving a total war, so is Assad. Putin is not, he's just less coy than us about his using the opportunity to battlefield-test his new toys. For the rest of it, we are just doing what we do best: procrastinate.

Edited January 26, 2016 by L00b

[999tigger]

It worked against Nazism in Germany alright.

Maybe you forgot the bit about ISIS' socio-ethno-theological cleansing and the Caliphate's national-socialist policies?

 

They're a couple of years old by now, at least.

 

Ethnic or religious cleansing is nothing new though. You always get all sorts of cleansing when a new violent regime takes power.

[JFKvsNixon]

Figure of speech, just like the "back to the stone age" post you were replying to (as if the West's rules of engagement would ever allow it to bomb anywhere back to the stone age ).

 

I didn't take your question to be literal, but to mean that total war would not win a conflict against Daesh. I'm thinking that it would, like it always has whenever countries have been at a total war and a side has lost.

 

Daesh is giving a total war, so is Assad. Putin is not, he's just less coy than us about his using the opportunity to battlefield-test his new toys. For the rest of it, we are just doing what we do best: procrastinate.

 

Sorry, sometimes it's hard not to take things literally on the internet, that's why I took the phrase - bomb them back to the stone age, as a literal desire.

 

I did not take the phrase - bomb them back to the stone age as being an expression of total war. My interpretation of that phrase is more akin to America's involvement in Vietnam during the later years of that conflict.

Edited January 26, 2016 by JFKvsNixon

[L00b]

Ethnic or religious cleansing is nothing new though. You always get all sorts of cleansing when a new violent regime takes power.

Well, how many more parallels do you need, until you are satisfied that Daesh has bit more in common with Nazis, than with Hutus or Tutsis?

 

Do these 'habitual' cleansing criteria and populations always include specifically religious groups, homosexuals, enemy captives, intellectuals, unfaithful wives, <etc.>?

Sorry, sometimes it's hard not to take things literally on the internet, that's why I took the phrase - bomb them back to the stone age, as a literal desire.

No biggie, no need of any apology. I think we are sync'd again Edited January 26, 2016 by L00b

[unbeliever]

I never suggested that it was irrelevant, I just stated that bombing a country back to the stone age has never won a war yet.

 

 

 

No, although I do believe that there's a very strong argument that the bombing campaign against Japan shortened the war considerably, I wouldn't say it won the war by itself.

 

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I disagree, I'm sure that the allied troops on the ground was the decisive factor, especially the Soviet ones.

 

There are troops on the ground.

They're just not western troops.

I suppose the issue is whether there are enough of them.

 

Bombs are a lot cleverer than in the '40s. Still I would agree that they can't do the job entirely by themselves. On the other hand I think they can do a bigger share than 70 years ago.

[PeteMorris]

Sorry, sometimes it's hard not to take things literally on the internet, that's why I took the phrase - bomb them back to the stone age, as a literal desire.

 

Although, it has to be noted...Daesh's doctrine is pretty 'stone age'....(not literally)...hahaha

[banjodeano]

There is only one thing you need to know about Deash or ISIS or whatever they are called and that is how to kill them. Bomb them back into the stone age, then kill their goat.

The Americans have supposedly been doing that for the last 18ish months or so, and got where??

All the people who are so quick to slag Corbyn off, would do well to realise that if we had listened to him in the first place, we wouldn't be in this mess, but we went along with our American puppet masters......to spread a little democracy

[unbeliever]

The Americans have supposedly been doing that for the last 18ish months or so, and got where??

All the people who are so quick to slag Corbyn off, would do well to realise that if we had listened to him in the first place, we wouldn't be in this mess, but we went along with our American puppet masters......to spread a little democracy

 

Oh Hello.

This conversation was getting far too sensible. Welcome.

 

I suppose if we left the region alone, Daesh would disappear and it would be milk and honey for all.

[JFKvsNixon]

Although, it has to be noted...Daesh's doctrine is pretty 'stone age'....(not literally)...hahaha

 

No arguments from me on that score.

[PeteMorris]

The Americans have supposedly been doing that for the last 18ish months or so, and got where??

All the people who are so quick to slag Corbyn off, would do well to realise that if we had listened to him in the first place, we wouldn't be in this mess, but we went along with our American puppet masters......to spread a little democracy

 

Oh and how would Corbyn have dealt with them?...Have a line of Morris dancers across the Syrian border?

 

Anyway...That's entirely off topic....