999tigger Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ummm...Once they get wherever they are going, they get fed and housed...Are there no indigenous people in Europe hungry and homeless? Including here in the UK. I'd say that was pretty preferential. If Mort was here he would be banning you for derailing the thread. They get given food and shelter not based on their religion , but because they claim asylum as refugees. I hope you voted on the poll which asked whether you would opt out of giving an extra 10% of your earnings to charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 There is only one thing you need to know about Deash or ISIS or whatever they are called and that is how to kill them. Bomb them back into the stone age, then kill their goat. Has that approach ever worked against an ideology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Btw who else amongst you thinks the ISIS sistuation is similar to the Nazis other than a violent group coming to power with an ideology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I'm sure that that's down to their refugee status rather than them being Muslim, also they're not allowed to work when they get here, so how are they meant to house and feed themselves? I'm not sure that you can describe that as preferential treatment. Yes I see your point about being muslim. However, I'm pretty sure there are people all over Europe who are stuck in the cycle of not being able to get a job because they don't 'live' somewhere, and don't have an address etc...That don't get any help at all. Hence both mine and your observation about the haves and have nots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Has that approach ever worked against an ideology? When we eventually got around to it, it worker rather well on the Nazis and the Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Yes I see your point about being muslim. However, I'm pretty sure there are people all over Europe who are stuck in the cycle of not being able to get a job because they don't 'live' somewhere, and don't have an address etc...That don't get any help at all. Hence both mine and your observation about the haves and have nots. So surely the problem that you're describing is overcome by finding a way to help the homeless overcome the barriers that is stopping them accessing help. This is an entirely different issue to why refugees get assistance. ---------- Post added 26-01-2016 at 14:39 ---------- When we eventually got around to it, it worker rather well on the Nazis and the Japanese. I thought that those wars were won on the battlefield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I thought that those wars were won on the battlefield? So you think that the massive bombing campaign was irrelevant? Even in the case of Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 So surely the problem that you're describing is overcome by finding a way to help the homeless overcome the barriers that is stopping them accessing help. This is an entirely different issue to why refugees get assistance. Yes of course! Charity begins at home! Or help, or assistance, or whatever you want to call it. Solve that problem first. It's entirely related to the refugee problem. Basically it's viewed as queue jumping. If you're jobless and homeless and see a migrant being given benefits, a house, 3 meals a day..I'd be pretty hacked off. It simply breeds hostility, and those are the 'seeds' of all out trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Has that approach ever worked against an ideology?It worked against Nazism in Germany alright. Btw who else amongst you thinks the ISIS sistuation is similar to the Nazis other than a violent group coming to power with an ideology?Maybe you forgot the bit about ISIS' socio-ethno-theological cleansing and the Caliphate's national-socialist policies? They're a couple of years old by now, at least. Edited January 26, 2016 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 So you think that the massive bombing campaign was irrelevant? I never suggested that it was irrelevant, I just stated that bombing a country back to the stone age has never won a war yet. Even in the case of Japan? No, although I do believe that there's a very strong argument that the bombing campaign against Japan shortened the war considerably, I wouldn't say it won the war by itself. ---------- Post added 26-01-2016 at 14:58 ---------- It worked against Nazism in Germany alright. I disagree, I'm sure that the allied troops on the ground was the decisive factor, especially the Soviet ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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