Eric Arthur Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 That said, what would be interesting to know is what his motives were at the time. I skimmed through some of Hansard yesterday after the point was made. Forearmed is forewarned. In truth, Corbyn wasn't saying very much at all. He was interested in Kurds in Turkey and radiation leaks on nuclear submarines but I didn't come across anything about Kuwait apart from an unsuccessful attempt to interrupt Margaret Thatcher's speech before the vote. I might have missed Corbyn making a big Nostradamus style prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ladd Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Daesh have exploited the Arab spring, which started in Tunisia and, to my knowledge, was not invaded or bombed by the UK or the USA. For that matter neither was Syria. Agreed, I would also argue that the dictators were weakened by the downfall of Saddam and as a result the Arab spring took place. Frankly we could argue were this started till the cows com home and probably end up during the fall of Jerusalem to the Muslims in the 7th century! The fact is we are were we are, and if western politicians continue to pussy foot around hoping that Daesh will go away we will all suffer for it. ---------- Post added 28-01-2016 at 13:01 ---------- The Americans have supposedly been doing that for the last 18ish months or so, and got where?? All the people who are so quick to slag Corbyn off, would do well to realise that if we had listened to him in the first place, we wouldn't be in this mess, but we went along with our American puppet masters......to spread a little democracy You write as if Corbyn was the lost voice in the wilderness. Labour ministers resigned over Blair and Browns criminal act. France and a number of other allies would have nothing to do with the invasion of a sovereign country. Corbyn was then what he is now, a non entity. A political agitator, never a politician. When you compare him to those ministers such as Robyn Cooke it shows how weak and ineffectual he was then. In view of the fact he is now leader of that once great party it shows how badly Labour has declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennpickard Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 re ISIS. I don't believe they will be doing much negotiating. They are so barbaric, and only understand death & destruction. It will ultimately mean "Boots on the ground" if we want them cleared up. Air power alone cannot do it. But Iranians, Turks, Syrians, Saudis, Jordanians, Egyptians etc should be the boots, and the west the strategy and weaponry for the most part. This group of "Neighbour" countries have as much or more to lose from ISIS further development as the west does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 After hearing about more destruction of world heritage sites by Daesh attempting to wipe our history in favour of their own, it dawned on me how similar this whole situation is/was to the rise of the Nazi's in Germany This has been on my mind a lot dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 After hearing about more destruction of world heritage sites by Daesh attempting to wipe our history in favour of their own, it dawned on me how similar this whole situation is/was to the rise of the Nazi's in Germany. We are told that Daesh does not represent a majority of Muslims. Nazi's did not represent a majority of Germans either. If Germany had countered the rise of the Nazi party, the world history would be much different to what we have today. Germans would not have suffered for years after Hitlers death too. We have today, politicians such as the Labour leader openly talking about discussions with Daesh to find a peaceful solution. This is what happened prior to WWII with Germany. We see Daesh trying to erase the history of the areas they control. The Nazis did the exact same thing. Dissent is met with death, both in the time of the Nazi's and now by Daesh. What history has taught us is, if you allow groups like the nazi's or daesh to grow, they eventually pose a massive threat to everyone, but those whom they came from, suffer the most in the long run. I think one big problem we have, is people tend to look at things in isolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I think one big problem we have, is people tend to look at things in isolation. Hi Waldo, what's up man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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