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I'd prefer to keep the licence fee (albeit cheaper) and keep the BBC ad -free but this is wrong on so many counts. 

 Vanessa Feltz - £355,000-£359,999

source BBC wage bill 2019

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3 hours ago, blackydog said:

I'd prefer to keep the licence fee (albeit cheaper) and keep the BBC ad -free but this is wrong on so many counts. 

 Vanessa Feltz - £355,000-£359,999

source BBC wage bill 2019

I am curious as to why you singling out Vanessa Feltz  on that list?

 

If your point is that they are all obscenely overpaid then say so but I really don't understand why one person is the focus of your criticism.

 

Whether or not someone personally likes her, she is an experienced presenter who not only broadcasts daily on their flagship national radio station but also separately presents daily on their largest regional station and on top of that sits in and covers lunchtime shifts when others are on holiday.  

 

That will come with a premium and if I was doing 2 or even 3 gigs each day I would expect to be on more than some of my fellow presenter colleagues too.  

 

To be fair compared to the sum that Chris Evans got for barely doing one show a day or the pay shmuck Steve Wright earns for basically phoning it in using the same 30 year old  jokes and format...... Nessa's pay demand seems like a bit of a bargain.  

 

As with all of these pay revelations that come out every single year in the report the fact remains that BBC pay is in the majority significantly less than any of the other commercial rivals.  

 

No-one is saying that the BBC should or even does try to compete with commercial levels of money but they have to offer at least something meaty to attract and retain Talent.   

 

Now I know lots of us sit there going "I could do that" or "all that money for reading autocue" but the reality is presentation work and attracting an audience is a specialist skill, is hard work often coming with far less longevity and security than most jobs have.  Like it or not that does come with a certain level of renumeration.

 

As always I'm sure there are plenty who would be delighted if the licence fee was pulled tomorrow.  But just think, with free-to-air television and radio gone what's likely to happen all those Sky, Amazon, Netflix subscription costs one there's a captive audience with no other choice. 

 

With broadcasters solely at the mercy of their advertising Paymasters what do people think is going to happen to any sort of independence alternative opinion or free from influence programmes. 

Edited by ECCOnoob

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I'm afraid this issue is just a political football. The politicians passed the buck to the BBC, who then said they would have to axe it due to not getting enough dish from the Government.  Newspapers decide much policymaking and decisions anyway as they influence the public, and politicians take great heed of public opinion, twitter polls etc.  Don't be surprised if it's used as a "look this way while I do something over there" - such as big headlines from a crusading newspaper "Government decide to pay the pensioners licence fees" and on page 4 raising taxes on something else or cutting subsidies or something else unpopular gets little press.

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3 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

I am curious as to why you singling out Vanessa Feltz  on that list?

 

If your point is that they are all obscenely overpaid then say so but I really don't understand why one person is the focus of your criticism.

 

Whether or not someone personally likes her, she is an experienced presenter who not only broadcasts daily on their flagship national radio station but also separately presents daily on their largest regional station and on top of that sits in and covers lunchtime shifts when others are on holiday.  

 

That will come with a premium and if I was doing 2 or even 3 gigs each day I would expect to be on more than some of my fellow presenter colleagues too.  

 

To be fair compared to the sum that Chris Evans got for barely doing one show a day or the pay shmuck Steve Wright earns for basically phoning it in using the same 30 year old  jokes and format...... Nessa's pay demand seems like a bit of a bargain.  

 

As with all of these pay revelations that come out every single year in the report the fact remains that BBC pay is in the majority significantly less than any of the other commercial rivals.  

 

No-one is saying that the BBC should or even does try to compete with commercial levels of money but they have to offer at least something meaty to attract and retain Talent.   

 

Now I know lots of us sit there going "I could do that" or "all that money for reading autocue" but the reality is presentation work and attracting an audience is a specialist skill, is hard work often coming with far less longevity and security than most jobs have.  Like it or not that does come with a certain level of renumeration.

 

As always I'm sure there are plenty who would be delighted if the licence fee was pulled tomorrow.  But just think, with free-to-air television and radio gone what's likely to happen all those Sky, Amazon, Netflix subscription costs one there's a captive audience with no other choice. 

 

With broadcasters solely at the mercy of their advertising Paymasters what do people think is going to happen to any sort of independence alternative opinion or free from influence programmes. 

You do go on a bit don't you?  CBA to read it all to be honest. She's just a prime example of someone in the BBC being paid way beyond her talent. 

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Genuine email: "You've just days left to renew your TV Licence

from: TV Licensing <donotreply@tvlicensing.co.uk>

"Your TV Licence expires on 30 September 2020 – please renew today".

 

Had the same email  from them last year,

 

So I will take the same action, I will pay up/renew, a week after my licence expires!

 

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4 minutes ago, me-and-pippo said:

Genuine email: "You've just days left to renew your TV Licence

from: TV Licensing <donotreply@tvlicensing.co.uk>

"Your TV Licence expires on 30 September 2020 – please renew today".

 

Had the same email  from them last year,

 

So I will take the same action, I will pay up/renew, a week after my licence expires!

 

Sorry I don't understand why a week after it has expired?

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Just now, apelike said:

Sorry I don't understand why a week after it has expired?

For their cheek,  asking "please renew today",  payment is not due until 30/09/20, they say " "You've just days left to renew".

I would call that 'weeks'?

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On 08/09/2020 at 18:55, ECCOnoob said:

I am curious as to why you singling out Vanessa Feltz  on that list?

 

If your point is that they are all obscenely overpaid then say so but I really don't understand why one person is the focus of your criticism.

 

Whether or not someone personally likes her, she is an experienced presenter who not only broadcasts daily on their flagship national radio station but also separately presents daily on their largest regional station and on top of that sits in and covers lunchtime shifts when others are on holiday.  

 

That will come with a premium and if I was doing 2 or even 3 gigs each day I would expect to be on more than some of my fellow presenter colleagues too.  

 

To be fair compared to the sum that Chris Evans got for barely doing one show a day or the pay shmuck Steve Wright earns for basically phoning it in using the same 30 year old  jokes and format...... Nessa's pay demand seems like a bit of a bargain.  

 

As with all of these pay revelations that come out every single year in the report the fact remains that BBC pay is in the majority significantly less than any of the other commercial rivals.  

 

No-one is saying that the BBC should or even does try to compete with commercial levels of money but they have to offer at least something meaty to attract and retain Talent.   

 

Now I know lots of us sit there going "I could do that" or "all that money for reading autocue" but the reality is presentation work and attracting an audience is a specialist skill, is hard work often coming with far less longevity and security than most jobs have.  Like it or not that does come with a certain level of renumeration.

 

As always I'm sure there are plenty who would be delighted if the licence fee was pulled tomorrow.  But just think, with free-to-air television and radio gone what's likely to happen all those Sky, Amazon, Netflix subscription costs one there's a captive audience with no other choice. 

 

With broadcasters solely at the mercy of their advertising Paymasters what do people think is going to happen to any sort of independence alternative opinion or free from influence programmes. 

She does the stupidly early morning shift then one just for London. I can't say much about the BBC London job but I don't think she's much cop at the morning job, but then neither is the disturbingly manic Zoe ball. I'd have prefred Coxy. 

 

If any company think they're worth more, theyll have them. 

 

(Ken Bruce is worth every penny).

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1 hour ago, me-and-pippo said:

So I will take the same action, I will pay up/renew, a week after my licence expires!

 

I generally renew after a month, or at least untill I have been paid.

When they start rewarding paying early, I will pay early.

If I submitted a bill for my services to number 10, I am guessing I wouldnt get paid straight away.

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An anti-BBC campaign group founded by Brexiteers has raised nearly £60,000 in crowdfunding donations as it pushes for radical reform of the licence fee.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/crowdfunding-donors-give-thousands-to-defund-bbc-lobby-group-0t73j329h


And this is a good read:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/sep/15/more-of-less-the-dilemma-facing-tim-davie-at-the-bbc

Edited by alchresearch

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Looks like the penny has finally dropped at the BBC. 

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