Car Boot   10 #673 Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, willman said: I know lets sell it off and privatise it, thats what people want reading some of the comments. Even from people who want railways,telecoms and buses renationalising  its a strange world we live in. Decriminalising the BBC TV licence fee will mean the penalty for non-payment is the same as with other household bills - such as electric, gas, the phone bill etc.  Why should the non-payment of a BBC TV utility bill be a criminal offence when the others aren't?  12 hours ago, alchresearch said: No it doesn't. It just turns out that when the enforcement officers call round, its women who are at home. The BBC DOES have a long, shameful record of discriminating against women.  Not just the poor and vulnerable women it persecutes for being unable to afford to pay it's bizarre TV tax, but the women it has employed in various roles through the decades who have always been paid LESS than men for doing a similar job.  The BBC just doesn't like women. Edited February 5, 2020 by Car Boot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #674 Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Here is the BBC scaring the public into paying it's licence fee:  "Currently, anyone who watches or records live TV or uses iPlayer without a TV licence is guilty of a criminal offence and could go to prison."  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51373372  If the BBC really is so trusted and loved by the British public, and it's content is so fantastic, then surely there's nothing to fear if it went to a subscription model? Edited February 5, 2020 by Car Boot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob   1,017 #675 Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Car Boot said: Here is the BBC scaring the public into paying it's licence fee:  "Currently, anyone who watches or records live TV or uses iPlayer without a TV licence is guilty of a criminal offence and could go to prison."  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51373372  If the BBC really is so trusted and loved by the British public, and it's content is so fantastic, then surely there's nothing to fear if it went to a subscription model? Its not the BBC scaring the public its THE LAW.  The BBC hasn't written, voted upon, approved and got royal ascent on the Communications Act 2003.  Parliament did.  You really do embarass yourself.  That same parliament is now giving consideration to potentially decriminalise.  Something I thought you would be jumping for joy about.  You have certainly been banging on about it long enough.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #676 Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, ECCOnoob said: Its not the BBC scaring the public its THE LAW.  The BBC hasn't written, voted upon, approved and got royal ascent on the Communications Act 2003.  Parliament did.  You really do embarass yourself.  That same parliament is now giving consideration to potentially decriminalise.  Something I thought you would be jumping for joy about.  You have certainly been banging on about it long enough.  The BBC is scaring the public, by carefully twisting the facts for maximum effect.  "Currently, anyone who watches or records live TV or uses iPlayer without a TV licence is guilty of a criminal offence and could go to prison."  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51373372  The BBC is well aware that not a single person has EVER been sent to prison for watching or recording live TV or using the iPlayer without a TV licence. People have been sent to prison for non-payment of the fine.  People only receive a custodial sentence for not paying the court imposed fine.  Your BBC - twisting the truth to gain a financial advantage.  NEVER TRUST THE CORRUPT BBC. Edited February 6, 2020 by Car Boot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   213 #677 Posted February 6, 2020 People cite how successful Netflix is, and how that should be used as a model for the BBC in the future.  Perhaps those people should take a look at how much debt Netflix is in first - $12 billion, and it keeps increasing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   213 #678 Posted February 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Car Boot said: Not just the poor and vulnerable women it persecutes for being unable to afford to pay it's bizarre TV tax, but the women it has employed in various roles through the decades who have always been paid LESS than men for doing a similar job.  The BBC just doesn't like women. How about if you can't afford it then don't use it? Why is it OK to take something without paying for it?  And you seem to be glossing over this basic fact. again. Quote They are also more likely to be the member of the household who is present when licensing officers come to the property – so are more likely to face charges.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #679 Posted February 6, 2020 On 05/02/2020 at 09:33, alchresearch said: No it doesn't. It just turns out that when the enforcement officers call round, its women who are at home. Maybe it's also due to women being more prone to the intimidation the licensing officers use to try and gain entrance to the property to see if it contains a TV . Perhaps men are just more likely to tell the officer to go away. And that is all that needs to be done- the licensing officers have no right to access to enter the home. Simply tell them 'no' and close the door.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
the_bloke   17 #680 Posted February 6, 2020 A subscription model wouldn't work; it wouldn't generate enough money to cover the cost of the BBC. How do you have a subscription for radio?  It's advertising or the taxpayer pays for it in tax increases. Seeing as the TV licence is basically a TV tax anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #681 Posted February 6, 2020 Those who support criminalising those who can't afford to pay the BBC TV licence fee in reality are supporting criminal convictions and imprisonment for debt.  How very Victorian.  Do these BBC supporters also support the return of the workhouses? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB Â Â 685 #682 Posted February 7, 2020 On 05/02/2020 at 22:09, Car Boot said: Here is the BBC scaring the public into paying it's licence fee: Â "Currently, anyone who watches or records live TV or uses iPlayer without a TV licence is guilty of a criminal offence and could go to prison." Â https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51373372 Â If the BBC really is so trusted and loved by the British public, and it's content is so fantastic, then surely there's nothing to fear if it went to a subscription model? I agree that the licensing authority goes way over the top in sending demands and threatening letters to anyone without a license,whether they have a TV or not. I had an extended battle with them to get a refund of the fee paid ,incorrectly for a static caravan which was only used by ourselves,and the tone of their responses was awful. However it really is the only public service provider for news,comment and investigative programmes which are a necessity as far as I am concerned. The Tories have a down on the BBC at the moment ,but this is allied to their other actions to control the media. Dont support this attempt to control the media. Â Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Thorpist   72 #683 Posted February 8, 2020 Should any cultural, art , sporting or entertainment be sponsored by the state is a question to be discussed. The BBC undoubtedly contributes to all these things. Peoples horizons and education have been greatly enhanced by the BBCs output . In my opinion the media would be a far worse place without the contribution of the BBC. Personally I would be happy for the BBC to paid for out of the existing tax system. It is by no means a perfect product (but what is ).  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Car Boot   10 #684 Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) BBC policies and procedures ensure that the disproportionate burden of TV license fee enforcement falls on very low income women. How can this possibly be just?  BBC gender discrimination is criminalising women in poverty.  POVERTY IS NOT A CRIME - DECRIMINALISE THE CRUEL BBC TV TAX. Edited February 8, 2020 by Car Boot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...